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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 2, 2023 4:44:31 GMT -5
Corey Seager became only the fourth player to win World Series MVP twice, joining Sandy Koufax, Bob Gibson and Reggie Jackson. Some name brands in there. The award didn't start until 1955, so the old timers never had a chance. Seager and Reggie are the only players to win it with two different teams.
Losing Garcia didn't slow down Texas at all -- they scored 16 runs in the two games without him.
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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 2, 2023 4:50:20 GMT -5
Taking that picture was definitely a big FU to Cashman and the Yankees. Absolutely agree. What else do those select four have in common? Although he didn't pitch very well for them this year, had Ian Kennedy not been on the IL he could have made it a quintet. Four rings now for Bruce Bochy.
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Post by desousa on Nov 2, 2023 6:48:23 GMT -5
Let the hot stove begin!
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Post by rizzuto on Nov 2, 2023 7:49:07 GMT -5
Braves again favorites to win the World Series next season. DoMe can start laying bets. Atlanta has seven position players and three starters under the age of 30. Locked and loaded in the National League or Senior Circuit as it was called when I was a lad.
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 2, 2023 8:22:45 GMT -5
Taking that picture was definitely a big FU to Cashman and the Yankees. Absolutely agree. What else do those select four have in common? They are all wearing grey shirts. I hope the Rangers gave a shout out to Cashman for taking all their bad players of their hands so they could improve.
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Post by chiyankee on Nov 2, 2023 8:26:30 GMT -5
Absolutely agree. What else do those select four have in common? Although he didn't pitch very well for them this year, had Ian Kennedy not been on the IL he could have made it a quintet. Four rings now for Bruce Bochy. Ezequiel Duran and Josh Smith were Yankee farmhands and part of the Gallo trade. They'll get rings too.
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Post by inger on Nov 2, 2023 10:40:31 GMT -5
The best thing about the Rangers winning the World Series is that they aren’t the Astros…
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Post by Renfield on Nov 2, 2023 16:27:34 GMT -5
To be fair to Cashman, I don't recall anybody begging to hold onto Chapman or Heaney. Evoldi's contract expired while he was recovering from surgery. Montgomery should go down as one of Cashman's dumbest moves, though.
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Post by domeplease on Nov 2, 2023 16:30:20 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this WS Plus I won some $$$ too.
Like the way Texas played (great defense) and good offense = get player on base and push him round. Plus one of the best managers in all of baseball.
Did you know that Arizona ran the most in 2023 and also had the best results from running???
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Post by rizzuto on Nov 2, 2023 19:07:06 GMT -5
To be fair to Cashman, I don't recall anybody begging to hold onto Chapman or Heaney. Evoldi's contract expired while he was recovering from surgery. Montgomery should go down as one of Cashman's dumbest moves, though. Cashman has signed and carried pitchers during their rehab from Tommy John surgery previously, both at the minor league and major league levels - essentially paying them not to pitch (Andrew Brackman and Jon Lieber for example) until healthy. Cashman even kept Brackman on the 40-man roster, only to let him go later for nothing. And, even after a solid run with the Red Sox and expressing wanting to return to the Yankees, Cashman didn't even make an offer for Eovaldi, who was an absolute steal for Texas on a very reasonable contract at two years at 17m each. Montgomery's departure was a travesty. But, a ring for Monty and two for Eovaldi, since he left the Yankees.
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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 3, 2023 5:46:40 GMT -5
This World Series had the lowest TV viewership ever, at least since there have been records starting in 1968. It averaged 9.1 million viewers, down 23 percent from last year. The previous low was in 2020, the pandemic series played at a neutral site (Arlington) which averaged 9.9 million viewers.
By way of comparison, the most-watched World Series ever was 1978, Yankees and Dodgers, which averaged over 44 million viewers per game, almost five times this year's numbers. In fact the five most-watched Series ever all came between 1978-1982. That included a strike year (1981) and two small-market years (Orioles-Pirates 1979 and Brewers and Cardinals, 1982.) The most-watched single game was Game Seven 1986, Mets-Red Sox, with between 55-60 million viewers.
Even in 1968, when it was still all day games, the Tigers and Cardinals averaged around 25 million viewers.
Still, even with the low numbers, the Series was the most-watched TV show in its time slot in four of the five nights (this includes streaming.) The one night it finished second was up against Monday Night Football, a meaningless game between Detroit and whatever city the Raiders are currently passing through.
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Post by kaybli on Nov 3, 2023 5:56:59 GMT -5
This World Series had the lowest TV viewership ever, at least since there have been records starting in 1968. It averaged 9.1 million viewers, down 23 percent from last year. The previous low was in 2020, the pandemic series played at a neutral site (Arlington) which averaged 9.9 million viewers. By way of comparison, the most-watched World Series ever was 1978, Yankees and Dodgers, which averaged over 44 million viewers per game, almost five times this year's numbers. In fact the five most-watched Series ever all came between 1978-1982. That included a strike year (1981) and two small-market years (Orioles-Pirates 1979 and Brewers and Cardinals, 1982.) The most-watched single game was Game Seven 1986, Mets-Red Sox, with between 55-60 million viewers. Even in 1968, when it was still all day games, the Tigers and Cardinals averaged around 25 million viewers. Still, even with the low numbers, the Series was the most-watched TV show in its time slot in four of the five nights (this includes streaming.) The one night it finished second was up against Monday Night Football, a meaningless game between Detroit and whatever city the Raiders are currently passing through. I had a feeling the viewership would be low considering the match-up. I myself only caught a few innings and just saw the highlights later. I miss Yankees baseball.
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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 3, 2023 6:49:21 GMT -5
This World Series had the lowest TV viewership ever, at least since there have been records starting in 1968. It averaged 9.1 million viewers, down 23 percent from last year. The previous low was in 2020, the pandemic series played at a neutral site (Arlington) which averaged 9.9 million viewers. By way of comparison, the most-watched World Series ever was 1978, Yankees and Dodgers, which averaged over 44 million viewers per game, almost five times this year's numbers. In fact the five most-watched Series ever all came between 1978-1982. That included a strike year (1981) and two small-market years (Orioles-Pirates 1979 and Brewers and Cardinals, 1982.) The most-watched single game was Game Seven 1986, Mets-Red Sox, with between 55-60 million viewers. Even in 1968, when it was still all day games, the Tigers and Cardinals averaged around 25 million viewers. Still, even with the low numbers, the Series was the most-watched TV show in its time slot in four of the five nights (this includes streaming.) The one night it finished second was up against Monday Night Football, a meaningless game between Detroit and whatever city the Raiders are currently passing through. I had a feeling the viewership would be low considering the match-up. I myself only caught a few innings and just saw the highlights later. I miss Yankees baseball. I'm sure the numbers would have improved with a New York team in there, but I don't think it would have been dramatic. Series viewership has been declining for decades, even while attendance and local viewership has been strong. In fact, viewership for network games was up seven percent in 2023 compared to 2022. Fox, FS1 and TBS all had solid upturns; only ESPN games remained flat. I guess we aren't the only ones who find the ESPN games painful to watch. D'Backs-Rangers have limited appeal outside of those two (large) markets. Neither team has much of a national following like the Yanks, Dodgers, Red Sox, Cubs, Cardinals and maybe a few others do. Plus the expanded playoffs meant we had the teams with the seventh and eleventh-best records playing. There is a definite downside to having 40 percent of the teams making the post-season. Personally, I watched maybe half of each game. I enjoyed it. But I love baseball in general, I'm not the typical viewer. I'll stop to watch two teams playing a pickup game in the park. I'll even watch a few innings of a Royals -- Athletics game in late September if the timing is right. No hope for me. But the rest of you, save yourselves so you don't wind up like that!
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Post by kaybli on Nov 3, 2023 6:53:15 GMT -5
I had a feeling the viewership would be low considering the match-up. I myself only caught a few innings and just saw the highlights later. I miss Yankees baseball. I'm sure the numbers would have improved with a New York team in there, but I don't think it would have been dramatic. Series viewership has been declining for decades, even while attendance and local viewership has been strong. In fact, viewership for network games was up seven percent in 2023 compared to 2022. Fox, FS1 and TBS all had solid upturns; only ESPN games remained flat. I guess we aren't the only ones who find the ESPN games painful to watch. D'Backs-Rangers have limited appeal outside of those two (large) markets. Neither team has much of a national following like the Yanks, Dodgers, Red Sox, Cubs, Cardinals and maybe a few others do. Plus the expanded playoffs meant we had the teams with the seventh and eleventh-best records playing. There is a definite downside to having 40 percent of the teams making the post-season. Personally, I watched maybe half of each game. I enjoyed it. But I love baseball in general, I'm not the typical viewer. I'll stop to watch two teams playing a pickup game in the park. I'll even watch a few innings of a Royals -- Athletics game in late September if the timing is right. No hope for me. But the rest of you, save yourselves so you don't wind up like that! I'm more of a Yankee fan than a baseball fan. I hardly miss Yankees games but once they're out, I only have a passing interest in watching the actual full games without them. I do get more interested if the hated Astros or Red Sox are playing to root against them.
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Post by pippsheadache on Nov 3, 2023 7:03:15 GMT -5
I'm sure the numbers would have improved with a New York team in there, but I don't think it would have been dramatic. Series viewership has been declining for decades, even while attendance and local viewership has been strong. In fact, viewership for network games was up seven percent in 2023 compared to 2022. Fox, FS1 and TBS all had solid upturns; only ESPN games remained flat. I guess we aren't the only ones who find the ESPN games painful to watch. D'Backs-Rangers have limited appeal outside of those two (large) markets. Neither team has much of a national following like the Yanks, Dodgers, Red Sox, Cubs, Cardinals and maybe a few others do. Plus the expanded playoffs meant we had the teams with the seventh and eleventh-best records playing. There is a definite downside to having 40 percent of the teams making the post-season. Personally, I watched maybe half of each game. I enjoyed it. But I love baseball in general, I'm not the typical viewer. I'll stop to watch two teams playing a pickup game in the park. I'll even watch a few innings of a Royals -- Athletics game in late September if the timing is right. No hope for me. But the rest of you, save yourselves so you don't wind up like that! I'm more of a Yankee fan than a baseball fan. I hardly miss Yankees games but once they're out, I only have a passing interest in watching the actual full games without them. I do get more interested if the hated Astros or Red Sox are playing to root against them. I think the vast majority are that way Kaybli. It didn't used to be that way when baseball was the most popular sport, which was the case until probably sometime in the 1970s when it was surpassed by the NFL. At that time, it was like the NFL has been for the past 50 or so years -- fans would watch the championship even if their team wasn't in it, like what happens for the Super Bowl. A half century goes by and things change. Who'd have thought it?
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