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Post by kaybli on Dec 29, 2023 11:52:46 GMT -5
Just my 2 cents, and I know my opinion isn't a popular one..But...The Yankees shouldn't sign Monty. He was basically a .500 pitcher for them. Granted, there were games where Monty had a quality start but didn't get the run support. But some pitchers pitch well enough to win, but also pitch well enough to lose. He has pitched better since leaving the Yankees so the questions are...Did he come into his own and become a better pitcher? Is he one of the many players that seem to play better when they aren't wearing pinstripes? I wouldn't be upset if the Yankees signed Monty, but in my opinion, the Yankees have better options. I'm a little hesitant to sign Monty because I think he is more a #3 than anything else while commanding a large contract. But what other good free agent options are there without giving up prospects in a trade? I don't like Snell who walks too many and doesn't go far into games while commanding an even larger contract than Monty. Shota Imanaga gives up too many HRs. Maybe its best to trade for Burnes to start with and then add a back end starter like Ryu?
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Post by kaybli on Dec 29, 2023 11:55:14 GMT -5
Though that rule seems good at first to encourage longer starting pitcher outings, I think its too much. You're punishing a team more if a starter has a bad game and say can't make it out of the first inning. Its too much of a departure from how things have worked for years. I wouldn't do it. Just my two cents. Good point. But can't they qualify the rule by claiming that if an injury to the SP occurs, then the reliever to him has to go five innings? I do think MLB has to do something to curb this rash of blow-out-your-arm relievers throwing circa 100 mph. I'd like to see SP go the distance more often, learning how have an array of pitches they can use after seeing batters two-to-three times in a game. I think 99 percent of us here (including me) would like the return to prominence of the starting pitcher who can give you innings. I just don't know if a rule change forcing it is the way to go.
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Post by Max on Dec 29, 2023 12:02:48 GMT -5
Just my 2 cents, and I know my opinion isn't a popular one..But...The Yankees shouldn't sign Monty. He was basically a .500 pitcher for them. Granted, there were games where Monty had a quality start but didn't get the run support. But some pitchers pitch well enough to win, but also pitch well enough to lose. He has pitched better since leaving the Yankees so the questions are...Did he come into his own and become a better pitcher? Is he one of the many players that seem to play better when they aren't wearing pinstripes? I wouldn't be upset if the Yankees signed Monty, but in my opinion, the Yankees have better options. I'm a little hesitant to sign Monty because I think he is more a #3 than anything else while commanding a large contract. But what other good free agent options are there without giving up prospects in a trade? I don't like Snell who walks too many and doesn't go far into games while commanding an even larger contract than Monty. Shota Imanaga gives up too many HRs. Maybe its best to trade for Burnes to start with and then add a back end starter like Ryu? Snell is a good pitcher, but he's not an innings eater, so I understand what you're saying. But I won't complain if the Yankees used their Yamamoto money to sign Snell and Hader. I would love if the Yankees traded for Burnes if he was willing to sign a contract extension with them.
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Dec 29, 2023 12:12:31 GMT -5
Just my 2 cents, and I know my opinion isn't a popular one..But...The Yankees shouldn't sign Monty. He was basically a .500 pitcher for them. Granted, there were games where Monty had a quality start but didn't get the run support. But some pitchers pitch well enough to win, but also pitch well enough to lose. He has pitched better since leaving the Yankees so the questions are...Did he come into his own and become a better pitcher? Is he one of the many players that seem to play better when they aren't wearing pinstripes? I wouldn't be upset if the Yankees signed Monty, but in my opinion, the Yankees have better options. I think one of the knocks on Monty when he was here was he didn't go deep. In that regard, the Yanks didn't help him as it seemed to me too often he was yanked when he got into trouble and not allowed to get out of it. Since moving on, particularly this year in the playoffs he seemed to do a good job pitching out of trouble. He has seemed to get a little better each year but who knows if that will continue. I'm not even sure if that development would have continued if he had remained in Pinstripes. With SP being in such demand, he will be overpayed, although I guess some will argue its not an overpay if the market is willing to pay it. The Yankees need to add a SP, as Max says there might be better options, but Monty is also a better option than some of the names being floated. Cash needs to make a smart decision here........anybody concerned he'll get it wrong?
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Post by bigjeep on Dec 29, 2023 12:46:01 GMT -5
And sad! I'm not sure they will do this in 2024, but they are testing the 5 inning rule! If a pitcher doesn't go at least 5 innings, the team looses the DH for the rest of the game. I must admit that's one new rule I would love! It most likely means good by Stanton! Though that rule seems good at first to encourage longer starting pitcher outings, I think its too much. You're punishing a team more if a starter has a bad game and say can't make it out of the first inning. Its too much of a departure from how things have worked for years. I wouldn't do it. Just my two cents. You mean Rodon!
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Post by kaybli on Dec 29, 2023 12:58:53 GMT -5
Though that rule seems good at first to encourage longer starting pitcher outings, I think its too much. You're punishing a team more if a starter has a bad game and say can't make it out of the first inning. Its too much of a departure from how things have worked for years. I wouldn't do it. Just my two cents. You mean Rodon!
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Post by chiyankee on Dec 29, 2023 13:00:13 GMT -5
And sad! I'm not sure they will do this in 2024, but they are testing the 5 inning rule! If a pitcher doesn't go at least 5 innings, the team looses the DH for the rest of the game. I must admit that's one new rule I would love! It most likely means good by Stanton! Though that rule seems good at first to encourage longer starting pitcher outings, I think its too much. You're punishing a team more if a starter has a bad game and say can't make it out of the first inning. Its too much of a departure from how things have worked for years. I wouldn't do it. Just my two cents. I think they should stop messing around with the game. The rule changes they implemented last year to speed up the game worked great, so leave it alone. Now they're talking about reducing the pitch clock by a couple more seconds. What for? Let the game breath and the players to continue to adjust to the rules you just put into place, quit messing around with this great game that doesn't need any more additional changes.
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Post by inger on Dec 29, 2023 13:07:08 GMT -5
And sad! I'm not sure they will do this in 2024, but they are testing the 5 inning rule! If a pitcher doesn't go at least 5 innings, the team looses the DH for the rest of the game. I must admit that's one new rule I would love! It most likely means good by Stanton! Though that rule seems good at first to encourage longer starting pitcher outings, I think its too much. You're punishing a team more if a starter has a bad game and say can't make it out of the first inning. Its too much of a departure from how things have worked for years. I wouldn't do it. Just my two cents. Can you say incongruous? The two articulates have nothing to do with each other, and if the starter has been shelled, one of the primary weapons for that team to get back into the game is then taken away. That’s one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard of. Why not rule that if the DH hasn’t had a hit by the fifth inning he can demand that the pitcher remove one pitch from his aresensl? Or dictate who will pitch against him?.. dumb…
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Post by Oburg Bob on Dec 29, 2023 13:26:16 GMT -5
I'm of the opinion that we should avoid signing any more long term (9 figure) contracts this off season. We'll need the money to hopefully sign Soto to a free agent contract in the Fall. I especially don't want to deplete our farm any more than we have to. It seems that the value Cashman attaches to prospects (especially those that have not yet been seen in person during a major league spring training) is less than it is after watching them and getting to know them as people. Yes, young pitchers are often "suspects" not "prospects" but it would be a shame to sell cheap until we can actually see what we have. Do you think that the Mets will ever be able to forget that they traded Nolan Ryan before they knew what they had? There is talent (Gil, Beeter, etc.) that could easily be in the bullpen and provide spot starts, if their command "clicks" during camp. I know, a big "if" but we won't know if we trade them away during the offseason.
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Post by bigjeep on Dec 29, 2023 14:51:12 GMT -5
Though that rule seems good at first to encourage longer starting pitcher outings, I think its too much. You're punishing a team more if a starter has a bad game and say can't make it out of the first inning. Its too much of a departure from how things have worked for years. I wouldn't do it. Just my two cents. Can you say incongruous? The two articulates have nothing to do with each other, and if the starter has been shelled, one of the primary weapons for that team to get back into the game is then taken away. That’s one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard of. Why not rule that if the DH hasn’t had a hit by the fifth inning he can demand that the pitcher remove one pitch from his aresensl? Or dictate who will pitch against him?.. dumb… With Stanton, I recommend two pitches be removed! The curve ball and the sinker!
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Post by bigjeep on Dec 29, 2023 15:17:52 GMT -5
I like the rule! Never liked the DH! The union loves it because guys like Stanton can hang on and collect millions of dollars! It also makes lazy managers ( no names here ) have to actually THINK! But I'm old school and admit it! Baseball makes a major mistake thinking MLB can compete with the NFL or the NBA! The NBA has only 15 players on a team! Maybe 5 or 6 make big money! The NFL has huge TV and now streaming contracts. They also have a hard cap! Yet there is maybe 12 minutes a game of football from snap to whistle! The rest is dead time and many commercials. But fans love that 12 minutes of action! Baseball is also talking about designated runners so the high end players won't have to run and get injured. Just run to first! Computers calling balls and strikes! Baseball is boring compared to the other leagues! How many rallies do we see today with players lucky to hit 200? Its all about the homerun! I remember watching a Giants Mets game going 22 innings until Davenport hit a homerun down the line with Casey screaming at the Umpire! Now they throw red flags! All they needed to do was have a rule keeping the batter in the box! I don't see the pitch clock making the game anymore exciting, just less game! If that's what fans want, so be it! I will just do more radio! The throwing to first base is also really very sad! But I'm
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Post by kaybli on Dec 29, 2023 16:14:05 GMT -5
I like the rule! Never liked the DH! The union loves it because guys like Stanton can hang on and collect millions of dollars! It also makes lazy managers ( no names here ) have to actually THINK! But I'm old school and admit it! Baseball makes a major mistake thinking MLB can compete with the NFL or the NBA! The NBA has only 15 players on a team! Maybe 5 or 6 make big money! The NFL has huge TV and now streaming contracts. They also have a hard cap! Yet there is maybe 12 minutes a game of football from snap to whistle! The rest is dead time and many commercials. But fans love that 12 minutes of action! Baseball is also talking about designated runners so the high end players won't have to run and get injured. Just run to first! Computers calling balls and strikes! Baseball is boring compared to the other leagues! How many rallies do we see today with players lucky to hit 200? Its all about the homerun! I remember watching a Giants Mets game going 22 innings until Davenport hit a homerun down the line with Casey screaming at the Umpire! Now they throw red flags! All they needed to do was have a rule keeping the batter in the box! I don't see the pitch clock making the game anymore exciting, just less game! If that's what fans want, so be it! I will just do more radio! The throwing to first base is also really very sad! But I'm Love the rant bigjeep! lol. Im with you on most of the things you mentioned but not the pitch clock. I think it’s been amazing how much more watchable the games are with their quicker pace thanks to the pitch clock.
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Post by bigjeep on Dec 29, 2023 16:25:59 GMT -5
I like the rule! Never liked the DH! The union loves it because guys like Stanton can hang on and collect millions of dollars! It also makes lazy managers ( no names here ) have to actually THINK! But I'm old school and admit it! Baseball makes a major mistake thinking MLB can compete with the NFL or the NBA! The NBA has only 15 players on a team! Maybe 5 or 6 make big money! The NFL has huge TV and now streaming contracts. They also have a hard cap! Yet there is maybe 12 minutes a game of football from snap to whistle! The rest is dead time and many commercials. But fans love that 12 minutes of action! Baseball is also talking about designated runners so the high end players won't have to run and get injured. Just run to first! Computers calling balls and strikes! Baseball is boring compared to the other leagues! How many rallies do we see today with players lucky to hit 200? Its all about the homerun! I remember watching a Giants Mets game going 22 innings until Davenport hit a homerun down the line with Casey screaming at the Umpire! Now they throw red flags! All they needed to do was have a rule keeping the batter in the box! I don't see the pitch clock making the game anymore exciting, just less game! If that's what fans want, so be it! I will just do more radio! The throwing to first base is also really very sad! But I'm Love the rant bigjeep! lol. Im with you on most of the things you mentioned but not the pitch clock. I think it’s been amazing how much more watchable the games are with their quicker pace thanks to the pitch clock. I'm famous for my out of control rants!
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Post by jiminy on Dec 29, 2023 16:34:44 GMT -5
Cody Morris is more than a bag of baseballs, and I think that the Guardians’ desperation for outfield help got the Yankees a more interesting arm than they could have hoped for otherwise. Morris has huge stuff, with a mid-90s fastball and an excellent curveball and change-up. The problem for Morris has always been health. Much like Jonathan Loaisiga years earlier, the thing to do with Morris is stick him in the bullpen, and let him air it out until his arm falls off. He could potentially be a good arm for the MLB bullpen as soon as this year, and he has all of his minor league options remaining. At this stage, getting Morris for Florial is a win. www.startspreadingthenews.blog/post/sstn-mailbag-yamamoto-revisited-new-years-wish-list-and-florial
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Post by jiminy on Dec 30, 2023 13:02:37 GMT -5
Yankees Could Unlock This Deadline Acquisition Keynan Middleton was one of the best-kept secrets on the team last year, ranking in the 96th Percentile in Whiff Rate (36%) and sporting a 3.38 ERA between the White Sox and Yankees last season. The hard-throwing right-hander has an excellent three-pitch mix, with all pitches he featured generating a Whiff Rate north of 30%. He’s entering his age-30 season and improved with the Yankees when they had him increase his slider usage against right-handed hitters, causing him to hold them to a sub-.300 wOBA and OBP with the Bronx Bombers. On a cheap deal, Middleton could greatly improve the middle of the Yankees’ bullpen, giving them another hard thrower with excellent secondaries as well. The Yankees wouldn’t have to pay much to retain him, and he mentioned that he immediately shaved upon receiving word that he was dealt to the Bronx. While the team floundered, Middleton posted a 1.88 ERA, and there’s a real chance he could be a high-leverage reliever for the team if the changes he made can stick. He also showed an ability to give the Yankees two innings if need be, versatility that will help this bullpen plenty. As for a potential contract, a two-year $10 million deal would give Middleton a huge increase over his MiLB deal with the White Sox the year prior, but it would only cost $5 million towards the Luxury Tax. Adding a low-cost arm for two years specifically would also give the bullpen insurance as Jonathan Loaisiga, Tommy Kahnle, and Clay Holmes all enter free agency next winter. This is an addition that takes your bullpen to the next level, as you have a unit with plenty of different repertoires and excellent stuff: Sean Manaea Scott Effross Keynan Middleton Jonathan Loaisiga Tommy Kahnle Victor Gonzalez Ian Hamilton Clay Holmes It’s a deep and talented bullpen, one that could rival any unit in the game, and with the upper-level MiLB depth the Yankees have with Ron Marinaccio, Luis Gil, Yoendrys Gomez, Clayton Beeter, and Will Warren, they’ll certainly have enough arms to get through the season. It’s not the sexiest game plan, but it makes the team considerably better and leaves them flexible enough to make a splash move at the deadline if need be. empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-yankees/how-the-yankees-can-boost-their-pitching-staff-in-2024/
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