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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 13, 2024 13:16:08 GMT -5
So now you are praising cashman for spending george’s money ? Lol wow
Wow what? Try not to "lol" so hard. Because here's some breaking news for you...GM's spend their owner's money.
Yeah they do and cashman is given more money to spend than nearly all other gms and yet up until now he hasnt had much to show for it |
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Post by inger on Jan 13, 2024 13:16:16 GMT -5
It was Cashman that brought Pettitte back to the Yankees. Along with Tex, Sabathia, and Burnett which allowed the Yankees to make the postseason in the first place. So now you are praising cashman for spending george’s money ? Lol wow That’s what GM’s do… right?… |
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Post by Max on Jan 13, 2024 13:24:48 GMT -5
Seems like you don't understand the meaning of the article's title. And you dont understand what full control is . Since everyone and their mother knows from 98 to 04 that it was mostly george that made the final decisions not cashman . And it was a condition cashman made for his return as gm in 05 .
Who's everyone? Your thoughts? Your feelings? I know perfectly well what full control is, just as I know perfectly well how the writer of the article meant it. Many owners make the final decisions, but let me know when they are on the phone making trade proposals.
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 13, 2024 13:27:51 GMT -5
And you dont understand what full control is . Since everyone and their mother knows from 98 to 04 that it was mostly george that made the final decisions not cashman . And it was a condition cashman made for his return as gm in 05 .
Who's everyone? Your thoughts? Your feelings? I know perfectly well what full control is, just as I know perfectly well how the writer of the article meant it. Many owners make the final decisions, but let me know when they are on the phone making trade proposals.
It was hal that basically forced the soto trade and it was george many years before that who forced the justice and arod trades . |
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Post by Max on Jan 13, 2024 13:35:16 GMT -5
If a team is in the postseason, they are WS contenders. The 2023 Diamondbacks should have told you that.
Yep. Once you’re in it’s a brand new mini season. Everybody has the the odds of being the 1 team out of 16 to win the WS. I hear criticisms all the time that the Yanks are built to win the regular season, but not built to win the playoffs, which sounds ludicrous to me. You’re either built to win or not. So with each team in the playoffs having a 6.3% chance of winning, all things being equal, you should expect to win once every 16 times you make the playoffs in the long run. It’s more about being healthy and happening to get hot at the right time than having the best team. Baseball is a sport of ebbs and flows, hot and cold streaks, more so than any other sport…
Most people from the YES message board know that I understand some of the criticism Cashman gets and I have called his trades for Montas and Donaldson by far his worst trades. I'm also not a fan of some of the things he says to the media when it comes to contract negotiations with some of his players. But since he became the Yankees GM in 1998 the guy for the most part has kept the Yankees a WS contender. I agree, if a team is built to win they are built to win.
Are you an NHL fan? I lost count on how many times all it took was a team's Goalie to get hot in the playoffs for a team to win a Stanley Cup or come close to winning a Stanley Cup.
Jeter as usual said it best..."Good teams make the playoffs, hot teams win the playoffs.”
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Post by Max on Jan 13, 2024 13:42:22 GMT -5
Wow what? Try not to "lol" so hard. Because here's some breaking news for you...GM's spend their owner's money.
Yeah they do and cashman is given more money to spend than nearly all other gms and yet up until now he hasnt had much to show for it
Yeah since he's been the Yankees GM, they have only won 4 WS championships and only making the post season 21 out of the last 25 years. Which also means they have been WS contenders 21 out of the last 25 years. I know some Met fans that laugh when Yankee fans complain.
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Post by Max on Jan 13, 2024 13:47:14 GMT -5
Who's everyone? Your thoughts? Your feelings? I know perfectly well what full control is, just as I know perfectly well how the writer of the article meant it. Many owners make the final decisions, but let me know when they are on the phone making trade proposals.
It was hal that basically forced the soto trade and it was george many years before that who forced the justice and arod trades .
That's what you assume.
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 13, 2024 13:49:10 GMT -5
It was hal that basically forced the soto trade and it was george many years before that who forced the justice and arod trades .
That's what you assume.
And yet you assume that cashman is more than mediocre at his job |
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Post by rizzuto on Jan 13, 2024 13:52:10 GMT -5
I’ll never forget the disdain in Jeter’s eyes after his free agency, which he wanted to remain private as he declared to Cashman et al at the outset that he would never play for another team, essentially diffusing any device to have another team in the bidding. Yet, Cashman took advantage of Jeter’s honesty, telling the media Jeter should test the market as a public negotiating ploy. When Jeter was announced to have re-signed, Cashman said on the dais, “Welcome back.” Jeter replied with a glare at Cashman, “I never left.” Cashman behaved similarly with Judge, who is even more diplomatic than Jeter. My guess is this was the reason Hal intervened in ensuring Judge was signed to be a lifetime Yankee. Know what? I have a tendency to blow off bull crap like those events, kind of mentally sweep them under the rug as “just negotiating ploys”. I’ve been a Cashman supporter and I’m starting to see the light. He is very cold and whenever he does interject anything it tends to be ungrateful to players. I’m going to switch to the other side. I do think it’s time for a change. Seriously. Your one post right here has made me see the light on this circumstance. I want a new GM… This one’s broken… Very gracious of you, my friend. But, tis only my perception from the meager scraps of information and videos to which the media, social media, etc. allow us access. I know I can be wrong. Cashman's recent profanity laden self-defense to media questions lacked ease, grace, sophistication, and was socially awkward. To me, that suggests the possibility of complacency within a mindset of job entitlement/security. Cashman has admitted in interviews that he does not have an eye for identifying talent before its bloom. While I cannot chastise someone for gifts they do not possess, I have been eager to see Cashman give up the reins (or Hal taking them away) since the construction of a right-handed dominant offense in a stadium built for left-handed hitters, which took the former mail-room intern years to acknowledge required attention...something we have been scratching our heads about for a long time on this (and previous) forums. |
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Post by Max on Jan 13, 2024 13:54:36 GMT -5
And yet you assume that cashman is more than mediocre at his job
Nope, big difference. I don't pretend to know what George or Hal do in the Yankees front office.
Cashman record of winning WS and keeping the Yankees for the most part a WS contender speaks for itself.
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 13, 2024 13:55:33 GMT -5
And yet you assume that cashman is more than mediocre at his job
Nope, big difference. I don't pretend to know what George or Hal do in the Yankees front office.
Cashman record of winning WS and keeping the Yankees for the most part a WS contender speaks for itself.
Thank you for proving my point . |
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Post by fwclipper51 on Jan 13, 2024 14:01:13 GMT -5
So now you are praising cashman for spending george’s money ? Lol wow That’s what GM’s do… right?… |
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Post by Max on Jan 13, 2024 14:07:59 GMT -5
Nope, big difference. I don't pretend to know what George or Hal do in the Yankees front office.
Cashman record of winning WS and keeping the Yankees for the most part a WS contender speaks for itself.
Thank you for proving my point .
If your point was that Cashman has been a good GM and that you don't really know what George and Hal say in the front office, then you're welcome. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jan 13, 2024 14:33:43 GMT -5
Lol they havent been a ws contender in almost 15 years . In fact they are currently in their second longest ws appearance drought since they been called the yankees . And that is accomplished during cashman’s tenure as GM To be fair it’s much tougher to get into the WS these days with the layers of playoffs, so it’s difficult to compare the eras that must be rolled into a statement like that. But to be fair to you, other teams are getting in, and getting in and winning is still the ultimate goal… It may be more difficult to get to the WS, but it is easier to get to the playoffs. 40% of teams make the playoffs. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 13, 2024 14:42:29 GMT -5
To be fair it’s much tougher to get into the WS these days with the layers of playoffs, so it’s difficult to compare the eras that must be rolled into a statement like that. But to be fair to you, other teams are getting in, and getting in and winning is still the ultimate goal… It may be more difficult to get to the WS, but it is easier to get to the playoffs. 40% of teams make the playoffs. Exactly . And with the resources cashman has , making the playoffs should be the bare minimum of expectations |
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