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Post by bumper on Jan 11, 2024 0:07:01 GMT -5
no. if the idea is that he's gonna be a #2 to cole, then no way. at best he's a 3 or 4 and we need a top of the line starter to pair w cole and he's gonna be too expensive to be a 3 or 4. Since when should we be caring about how expensive a player is? I understand being against long term deals with sone players but why should we care so much about how much the deal is ? This is the friggen yankees not a small market team it's really not a case of him being too expensive. just don't think he's worth the money he's projected to get and judging by the heck no's, neither does anybody else. for 3/70, i want more bang for my buck than a guy who pitched to a 3.95 era last season. |
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Post by kaybli on Jan 11, 2024 0:47:26 GMT -5
no. if the idea is that he's gonna be a #2 to cole, then no way. at best he's a 3 or 4 and we need a top of the line starter to pair w cole and he's gonna be too expensive to be a 3 or 4. Since when should we be caring about how expensive a player is? I understand being against long term deals with sone players but why should we care so much about how much the deal is ? This is the friggen yankees not a small market team Because like it or not the Yankees operate on a budget so for any money spent there is an opportunity cost of not signing other players. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 11, 2024 0:50:31 GMT -5
Since when should we be caring about how expensive a player is? I understand being against long term deals with sone players but why should we care so much about how much the deal is ? This is the friggen yankees not a small market team Because like it or not the Yankees operate on a budget so for any money spent there is an opportunity cost of not signing other players. If you keep worrying about the future you get nothing done in the present . That kind of thinking doesnt win a championship |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 11, 2024 0:51:50 GMT -5
Since when should we be caring about how expensive a player is? I understand being against long term deals with sone players but why should we care so much about how much the deal is ? This is the friggen yankees not a small market team Because like it or not the Yankees operate on a budget so for any money spent there is an opportunity cost of not signing other players. Well because of what guys like giollito and sevy got , i doubt you get him for much less than that |
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Post by vtfan on Jan 11, 2024 5:31:15 GMT -5
I dunno man , it still screams of desperation and stupidity like when they signed happ in early 19 . You have to take risks, I think, even if one (like Happ) fails. That Rumors website makes a good case for taking that risk w/ Stroman, imo. But if Hal Cashman (one name now, in my book) does happen to get him, we still need another SP like Snell. Combined, they'll cost less than Yamamoto would have, and the latter was/is untested w/ respect to US MLB batters. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 11, 2024 6:35:18 GMT -5
I dunno man , it still screams of desperation and stupidity like when they signed happ in early 19 . You have to take risks, I think, even if one (like Happ) fails. That Rumors website makes a good case for taking that risk w/ Stroman, imo. But if Hal Cashman (one name now, in my book) does happen to get him, we still need another SP like Snell. Combined, they'll cost less than Yamamoto would have, and the latter was/is untested w/ respect to US MLB batters. If they sign stroman i doubt they sign snell and if they do sign them both then you can guarantee that soto is a one year rental . And there is less risk in signing stroman than in signing snell or even monty because he will cost less money and years than either one of them or wont cost good players/prospects . So it just reinforces my idea that stroman is a move that screams desperation . And if they do trade for someone then it will be for someone like bieber Ir bryce miller who will come much cheaper than a guy like cease or burnes , yet another example of the lower risk route this team always takes . |
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Post by Oburg Bob on Jan 11, 2024 8:32:28 GMT -5
Marcus Stroman Who has a 77-76 career record! |
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Post by ypaterson on Jan 11, 2024 9:58:44 GMT -5
Does anyone think it might be unwise to have two guys as thin skinned as Rodon and Stroman on one New York staff ? Two guys who have history dissing New York baseball fans ? Media people ? I like Stroman fine on paper but his inability to block out the outside world and keep his focus on the field is a major flaw.
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 11, 2024 10:41:08 GMT -5
Does anyone think it might be unwise to have two guys as thin skinned as Rodon and Stroman on one New York staff ? Two guys who have history dissing New York baseball fans ? Media people ? I like Stroman fine on paper but his inability to block out the outside world and keep his focus on the field is a major flaw. It's a concern. Stroman is know more now for all his outlandish comments and pot stirring with the media and on social medial than actual performance on the mound. |
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Post by inger on Jan 11, 2024 11:03:40 GMT -5
Does anyone think it might be unwise to have two guys as thin skinned as Rodon and Stroman on one New York staff ? Two guys who have history dissing New York baseball fans ? Media people ? I like Stroman fine on paper but his inability to block out the outside world and keep his focus on the field is a major flaw. It's a concern. Stroman is know more now for all his outlandish comments and pot stirring with the media and on social medial than actual performance on the mound. And that damned shoulder shimmy. He’s a “ look at me” kind of guy…Talemy alone is not the reason to sign a player. He needs to fit in… |
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Post by Max on Jan 11, 2024 11:20:23 GMT -5
I’m not a fan of the 33 year old oompah loompah. For a two year, reasonable contract? Is that now a thing of the past? These owners can't help themselves and are handing out this absurd long term contracts. I know they keep the average cost per year down for the contract but that's a lot of dead weight at the end of the deal. As usual, my dad was right. I remember when free agency first started he said..."It won't happen, but the owners shouldn't offer an everyday player more than a 5 year contract, and the pitchers shouldn't be offered more than a 3 year contact." |
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Post by Max on Jan 11, 2024 11:23:02 GMT -5
no. if the idea is that he's gonna be a #2 to cole, then no way. at best he's a 3 or 4 and we need a top of the line starter to pair w cole and he's gonna be too expensive to be a 3 or 4. Since when should we be caring about how expensive a player is? I understand being against long term deals with sone players but why should we care so much about how much the deal is ? This is the friggen yankees not a small market team Because of the luxury tax and the penalties that come along with it. It's not just money anymore, going too much over the LT can also cost teams international signing money and draft picks. |
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Post by Max on Jan 11, 2024 11:28:07 GMT -5
Because like it or not the Yankees operate on a budget so for any money spent there is an opportunity cost of not signing other players. If you keep worrying about the future you get nothing done in the present . That kind of thinking doesnt win a championship The objective is for a team to do both. The Mets didn't worry about their future last season, and look what happened to them. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 11, 2024 11:33:03 GMT -5
These owners can't help themselves and are handing out this absurd long term contracts. I know they keep the average cost per year down for the contract but that's a lot of dead weight at the end of the deal. As usual, my dad was right. I remember when free agency first started he said..."It won't happen, but the owners shouldn't offer an everyday player more than a 5 year contract, and the pitchers shouldn't be offered more than a 3 year contact." The NBA and their player's union group have an agreement that no player contracts can be more than 5 years. While it does allow players to hit free agency more often, it also protects the owners from themselves. |
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Post by Max on Jan 11, 2024 11:33:20 GMT -5
I'm optimistic about Warren and don't want to see Stroman take his potential innings. We can develop our own "500" pitcher. I'm optimistic about a handful of Yankee pitching prospects. But in my opinion, the Yankees still need to add at least 1 established MLB starting pitcher |
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