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Post by Max on Jan 11, 2024 11:37:26 GMT -5
As usual, my dad was right. I remember when free agency first started he said..."It won't happen, but the owners shouldn't offer an everyday player more than a 5 year contract, and the pitchers shouldn't be offered more than a 3 year contact." The NBA and their player's union group have an agreement that no player contracts can be more than 5 years. While it does allow players to hit free agency more often, it also protects the owners from themselves. The NBA also has a buyout option, that I wish MLB had. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 11, 2024 12:25:35 GMT -5
As usual, my dad was right. I remember when free agency first started he said..."It won't happen, but the owners shouldn't offer an everyday player more than a 5 year contract, and the pitchers shouldn't be offered more than a 3 year contact." Problem is they'd open themselves up to charges of collusion. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 11, 2024 14:56:19 GMT -5
I'm optimistic about Warren and don't want to see Stroman take his potential innings. We can develop our own "500" pitcher. I'm optimistic about a handful of Yankee pitching prospects. But in my opinion, the Yankees still need to add at least 1 established MLB starting pitcher It is almost certain that warren will get his share of innings as a starter this season unless luke weaver comes out like s bat out of hell in st and steals his rotation spot |
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Post by Max on Jan 11, 2024 15:39:10 GMT -5
I'm optimistic about a handful of Yankee pitching prospects. But in my opinion, the Yankees still need to add at least 1 established MLB starting pitcher It is almost certain that warren will get his share of innings as a starter this season unless luke weaver comes out like s bat out of hell in st and steals his rotation spot
In my opinion, probably Warren and or Beeter will eventually get starts. Weaver is a free agent, not sure if the Yankees will sign him.
LOL! Looks like they did sign him afterall.
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Post by cookback on Jan 11, 2024 15:46:48 GMT -5
From MLBTrade rumors..
Yankees, Luke Weaver Agree To Major League Deal
By Darragh McDonald | January 11, 2024 at 1:55pm CDT
The Yankees have signed right-hander Luke Weaver to a one-year deal, reports Robert Murray of FanSided. Weaver will make $2MM in 2024 and there’s a club option for 2025, with the potential for the deal to max out at $8.25MM. The deal for the Ballengee Group client is pending a physical. Jon Heyman of The New York Post relays that there are performance bonuses in 2024 while the 2025 option comes with a $2.5MM base salary and escalators based on innings pitched in 2024 that could push it to $6MM.
Luke Weaver | Jake Roth-USA TODAY SportsWeaver, 30, had a nomadic season in 2023, one which he finished with the Yankees. They claimed him off waivers from the Mariners in mid-September and he made three starts for the club down the stretch. He tossed 13 1/3 innings over those outings and had a solid earned run average of 3.38.
That’s obviously a small sample of work and the rest of his season wasn’t nearly as impressive. He signed a $2MM deal with the Reds for the year but posted a 6.87 ERA in 97 innings for that club. He was released in August and signed with the Mariners, logging 13 1/3 innings for them with a 6.08 ERA before heading to the Yanks to finish out the year. Between the three clubs, he talled 123 2/3 frames with a 6.40 ERA, 19.4% strikeout rate, 7.1% walk rate and 35.5% ground ball rate.
The righty has shown better form in the past, including a stretch from 2017 to 2019 when he posted a 4.21 ERA in 261 innings between the Cardinals and Diamondbacks, with Weaver joining Andrew Young and Carson Kelly as the return in the Paul Goldschmidt trade. He paired a 23.4% strikeout rate in that time with a 7.6% walk rate, also getting grounders on 43.5% of balls in play. But his ERA jumped to 6.58 in the shortened 2020 season. He recovered somewhat in 2021, getting that down to 4.25, but missed time due to a strained shoulder and elbow inflammation and only made 13 starts.
In 2022, the Diamondbacks moved him to a relief role, which didn’t work out. He finished the year with a 6.56 ERA, split between the Snakes and the Royals, getting flipped at the deadline for Emmanuel Rivera. The Reds took a shot on him and moved him back to a starting role but, as mentioned, that didn’t work out well either.
Overall, he goes into 2024 with a 5.14 ERA which isn’t immediately impressive. He has never really had control problems, however, having never walked more than 8.9% of hitters in any season and currently sporting a 7.4% rate for his career. For reference, the league average in 2023 with 8.6%. Perhaps there’s some bad luck overall in his results, as his .328 batting average on balls in play and 68.4% strand rate are reach on the unfortunate side of average. ERA estimators such as his 4.31 FIP and 4.20 SIERA paint a more flattering picture than his actual ERA. But on the other hand, his strikeouts have ticked down for four straight seasons now.
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Post by Max on Jan 11, 2024 15:51:58 GMT -5
As usual, my dad was right. I remember when free agency first started he said..."It won't happen, but the owners shouldn't offer an everyday player more than a 5 year contract, and the pitchers shouldn't be offered more than a 3 year contact." Problem is they'd open themselves up to charges of collusion.
I don't remember the official name for it, I would like to see MLB bring back the free agency draft. If I remember correctly one of the rules was, negotiating rights to a player may be selected by a maximum of 12 teams. If I remember correctly the Yankees didn't select Reggie first. Their first selection was Bobby Grich. I think they planned to sign Grich and move him to SS.
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Post by qimqam on Jan 11, 2024 16:23:14 GMT -5
no. if the idea is that he's gonna be a #2 to cole, then no way. at best he's a 3 or 4 and we need a top of the line starter to pair w cole and he's gonna be too expensive to be a 3 or 4. Since when should we be caring about how expensive a player is? I understand being against long term deals with sone players but why should we care so much about how much the deal is ? This is the friggen yankees not a small market team 1 Word for you ...Stanton!! |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 11, 2024 17:07:19 GMT -5
Since when should we be caring about how expensive a player is? I understand being against long term deals with sone players but why should we care so much about how much the deal is ? This is the friggen yankees not a small market team 1 Word for you ...Stanton!! Dodgers and mets havent been like that these last couple of years . People say the yankees arent being run like a small market team and yet how they have handled the FA market these last few years says differently . Heck even their trades have been for short term rentals . |
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Post by ypaterson on Jan 11, 2024 17:07:58 GMT -5
As usual, my dad was right. I remember when free agency first started he said..."It won't happen, but the owners shouldn't offer an everyday player more than a 5 year contract, and the pitchers shouldn't be offered more than a 3 year contact." The NBA and their player's union group have an agreement that no player contracts can be more than 5 years. While it does allow players to hit free agency more often, it also protects the owners from themselves. The collective bargaining agreement between the NBA and its players is world away from that of MLB and the MLBPA. The NBA very much tries to portray its owners as partners with the players in the basketball business. The percentage of revenue (BRI) set aside for player salaries is set at 52%. I doubt we will see the owners of professional baseball open up their books or agree to anything similar. Two very different worlds. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 11, 2024 21:00:57 GMT -5
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Post by cookback on Jan 11, 2024 21:12:21 GMT -5
2 years with an option
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 11, 2024 21:14:35 GMT -5
I predicted that contract earlier in this thread . Hope they get another starter
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Post by inger on Jan 11, 2024 21:17:57 GMT -5
If you wanted him, you got him. If not… you got him anyway…
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 11, 2024 22:43:57 GMT -5
If you wanted him, you got him. If not… you got him anyway… Well if this is all they do for the rotation then dont expect al lot better than last season |
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Post by Max on Jan 12, 2024 17:24:52 GMT -5
If you wanted him, you got him. If not… you got him anyway… LOL! |
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