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Post by Max on Jan 14, 2024 10:02:08 GMT -5
Well, it wasn't just Volpe or Torres. The Reds aren't the Yankees minor league team, they don't owe the Yankees anything. The Reds took the better prospects even if Cashman was to agree to their proposal. There was no real proposal from the yankees since they refused to include volpe or torres . The reds didnt take seattle’s offer cause it was better they took it because the yankees refused to meet their asking price . Looking at the trade proposals and what the Mariners traded tells a different story than your post. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 14, 2024 12:44:14 GMT -5
There was no real proposal from the yankees since they refused to include volpe or torres . The reds didnt take seattle’s offer cause it was better they took it because the yankees refused to meet their asking price . Looking at the trade proposals and what the Mariners traded tells a different story than your post. What trade proposals? Yankees never really made a serious one since they refused to part with torres or volpe . |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jan 14, 2024 14:04:50 GMT -5
Just my opinion here but I'm of the belief that probably more than half of the trade proposals or reported interest in FAs are manufactured stories. Far fewer of them are serious discussions than we are led to believe. There are probably less FAs or trade candidates who have not been linked to the Yankees than have been. Suspect GMs often checkin on players but not all of those result in serious discussions. We sometimes put too much credence in what is "reported".
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Post by inger on Jan 14, 2024 14:36:28 GMT -5
Just my opinion here but I'm of the belief that probably more than half of the trade proposals or reported interest in FAs are manufactured stories. Far fewer of them are serious discussions than we are led to believe. There are probably less FAs or trade candidates who have not been linked to the Yankees than have been. Suspect GMs often checkin on players but not all of those result in serious discussions. We sometimes put too much credence in what is "reported". Yep. Those reports are something to write on a slow day when you have writer’s block and have to meet the deadline… |
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Post by Max on Jan 14, 2024 14:49:25 GMT -5
Looking at the trade proposals and what the Mariners traded tells a different story than your post. What trade proposals? Yankees never really made a serious one since they refused to part with torres or volpe . Look it up. |
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Post by Max on Jan 14, 2024 14:56:27 GMT -5
Just my opinion here but I'm of the belief that probably more than half of the trade proposals or reported interest in FAs are manufactured stories. Far fewer of them are serious discussions than we are led to believe. There are probably less FAs or trade candidates who have not been linked to the Yankees than have been. Suspect GMs often checkin on players but not all of those result in serious discussions. We sometimes put too much credence in what is "reported". Someone once made me a fantasy hockey trade proposal... Jonathan Quick for Connor McDavid. I had to check the news to see if McDavid fell down an elevator shaft.
I see what you're saying. I usually take trade proposals with a grain of salt. It depends who's reporting it and if the trade makes any sense.
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 14, 2024 15:16:56 GMT -5
What trade proposals? Yankees never really made a serious one since they refused to part with torres or volpe . Look it up. You said there trade proposals so naturally i asked you to show me . From the yankees i saw names being thrown around and first cashman refused to include torres so the talks ended . Then at the deadline it happened again but then reds asked for volpe and talks ended again and then the mariners moved on to the mariners . |
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Post by Max on Jan 14, 2024 15:44:56 GMT -5
You said there trade proposals so naturally i asked you to show me . From the yankees i saw names being thrown around and first cashman refused to include torres so the talks ended . Then at the deadline it happened again but then reds asked for volpe and talks ended again and then the mariners moved on to the mariners .
You didn't ask me to show you, and I'm not about to look up years old trade proposals. I remember what I remember, if that's not good enough, that's too bad.
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Post by Max on Jan 14, 2024 15:46:47 GMT -5
You said there trade proposals so naturally i asked you to show me . From the yankees i saw names being thrown around and first cashman refused to include torres so the talks ended . Then at the deadline it happened again but then reds asked for volpe and talks ended again and then the mariners moved on to the mariners .
You didn't ask me to show you, you said what trade proposals. You know, some of the trade proposals that you brought up. Also, I'm not about to look up years old trade proposals. I remember what I remember, if that's not good enough, that's too bad.
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 14, 2024 15:51:36 GMT -5
You didn't ask me to show you, you said what trade proposals. You know, some of the trade proposals that you brought up. Also, I'm not about to look up years old trade proposals. I remember what I remember, if that's not good enough, that's too bad.
I wasnt asking for years of trade proposals i was asking about the trade proposals that were made for castillo . Thats what the convo was about . Or atleast what i was talking about . Either way you said there were proposals and i at the very least asked you about them . |
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Post by inger on Jan 14, 2024 17:18:00 GMT -5
Looking at the trade proposals and what the Mariners traded tells a different story than your post. What trade proposals? Yankees never really made a serious one since they refused to part with torres or volpe . A proposal without Torres or Volpe is still a trade proposal…It’s just a proposal that didn’t work for the other team… |
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 14, 2024 17:33:55 GMT -5
What trade proposals? Yankees never really made a serious one since they refused to part with torres or volpe . A proposal without Torres or Volpe is still a trade proposal…It’s just a proposal that didn’t work for the other team… Did the Reds have any interest in Gleyber? The reason they were trading Castillo was that he was just about to get expensive and they weren't going to be able to keep him when he became a free agent. Gleyber is in that same category. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 14, 2024 17:37:05 GMT -5
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Post by azbob643 on Jan 14, 2024 17:37:43 GMT -5
A proposal without Torres or Volpe is still a trade proposal…It’s just a proposal that didn’t work for the other team… Did the Reds have any interest in Gleyber? The reason they were trading Castillo was that he was just about to get expensive and they weren't going to be able to keep him when he became a free agent. Gleyber is in that same category. Yep. Some say Yanks should trade Gleyber before he becomes too expensive. That doesn't make any sense to me but regardless, whichever team traded for him would have to deal with the same issue unless it was looking for a one-year rental. |
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Post by posadafan24 on Jan 14, 2024 17:42:09 GMT -5
Did the Reds have any interest in Gleyber? The reason they were trading Castillo was that he was just about to get expensive and they weren't going to be able to keep him when he became a free agent. Gleyber is in that same category. Yep. Some say Yanks should trade Gleyber before he becomes too expensive. That doesn't make any sense to me but regardless, whichever team traded for him would have to deal with the same issue unless it was looking for a one-year rental. Actually most people i have seen say , trade torres because they dont think he is worth signing long term because of his defense and he is a streaky hitter . And i agree . |
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