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Post by chiyankee on May 10, 2024 8:25:15 GMT -5
Nobody died. Lessons were (hopefully) learned. I’m over this one… I’m not certain the Yankees learn lessons on the bases, or if the do, not well enough to avoid the same mistakes. I don’t remember base running gaffes being so prevalent growing up. Of course, there was no way of watching over 100 games per year back then. Managers in the past wouldn't put up with it. It's not like that anymore. |
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Post by rizzuto on May 10, 2024 11:03:31 GMT -5
I’m not certain the Yankees learn lessons on the bases, or if the do, not well enough to avoid the same mistakes. I don’t remember base running gaffes being so prevalent growing up. Of course, there was no way of watching over 100 games per year back then. Managers in the past wouldn't put up with it. It's not like that anymore. Sometimes I wonder if benches were what they used to be in the 70s and 80s, if players would be unceremoniously taken out of a game after such mental errors. Veterans sometimes had their future replacements sitting in the dugout, as young players would make the team, and not be stowed at AAA until the perfect time, like a cake coming out of an oven. |
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Post by chiyankee on May 10, 2024 11:21:55 GMT -5
Managers in the past wouldn't put up with it. It's not like that anymore. Sometimes I wonder if benches were what they used to be in the 70s and 80s, if players would be unceremoniously taken out of a game after such mental errors. Veterans sometimes had their future replacements sitting in the dugout, as young players would make the team, and not be stowed at AAA until the perfect time, like a cake coming out of an oven. That's a good point, the Yankees now only have 4 bench players during a game and one of them is the other catcher. There's not much room for managers to make an example of a guy anymore. |
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Post by pippsheadache on May 10, 2024 11:28:43 GMT -5
Sometimes I wonder if benches were what they used to be in the 70s and 80s, if players would be unceremoniously taken out of a game after such mental errors. Veterans sometimes had their future replacements sitting in the dugout, as young players would make the team, and not be stowed at AAA until the perfect time, like a cake coming out of an oven. That's a good point, the Yankees now only have 4 bench players during a game and one of them is the other catcher. There's not much room for managers to make an example of a guy anymore. Chi, I think all teams have the same roster construction of 13 pitchers and 13 position players. Maybe a few short-term exceptions, but not many. It was a more interesting game when a typical roster had 10 pitchers and 15 position players. |
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Post by inger on May 10, 2024 14:21:50 GMT -5
That's a good point, the Yankees now only have 4 bench players during a game and one of them is the other catcher. There's not much room for managers to make an example of a guy anymore. Chi, I think all teams have the same roster construction of 13 pitchers and 13 position players. Maybe a few short-term exceptions, but not many. It was a more interesting game when a typical roster had 10 pitchers and 15 position players. There are no more pinch-hitting specialists, and because the need for versatility there more concern for glovemen on the benches than players that can be an upgrade at the plate… |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on May 10, 2024 15:50:33 GMT -5
Chi, I think all teams have the same roster construction of 13 pitchers and 13 position players. Maybe a few short-term exceptions, but not many. It was a more interesting game when a typical roster had 10 pitchers and 15 position players. There are no more pinch-hitting specialists, and because the need for versatility there more concern for glovemen on the benches than players that can be an upgrade at the plate… RIP Gates Brown and Smokey Burgess. |
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Post by inger on May 10, 2024 16:20:49 GMT -5
There are no more pinch-hitting specialists, and because the need for versatility there more concern for glovemen on the benches than players that can be an upgrade at the plate… RIP Gates Brown and Smokey Burgess. 😢. and Manny Mota, Greg Gross, Dave Philley, Vic Davillo… Matt Stairs, La Grande Orange… |
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Post by pippsheadache on May 10, 2024 17:47:36 GMT -5
RIP Gates Brown and Smokey Burgess. 😢. and Manny Mota, Greg Gross, Dave Philley, Vic Davillo… Matt Stairs, La Grande Orange… And Jerry Lynch and Lenny Harris and Tommy Davis and Johnny Blanchard |
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Post by chiyankee on May 10, 2024 19:22:16 GMT -5
😢. and Manny Mota, Greg Gross, Dave Philley, Vic Davillo… Matt Stairs, La Grande Orange… And Jerry Lynch and Lenny Harris and Tommy Davis and Johnny Blanchard Don't forget Del Unser and old Rusty Staub. |
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Post by pippsheadache on May 10, 2024 19:27:38 GMT -5
And Jerry Lynch and Lenny Harris and Tommy Davis and Johnny Blanchard Don't forget Del Unser and old Rusty Staub. I actually thought about Unser after I posted. Ed Kranepool became a pinch hitter late in his career. Maybe a little before your time, but Merv Rettenmund and Terry Crowley with Baltimore were big time PHers. |
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Post by chiyankee on May 10, 2024 19:30:25 GMT -5
Don't forget Del Unser and old Rusty Staub. I actually thought about Unser after I posted. Ed Kranepool became a pinch hitter late in his career. Maybe a little before your time, but Merv Rettenmund and Terry Crowley with Baltimore were big time PHers. I remember Crowley but not Merrv. From my baseball cards, I remember Jerry Morales, Harry Spillman and Dave Bregman. Guy that used to have almost as many at bats as games played. |
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