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Post by chiyankee on Jul 19, 2018 10:32:54 GMT -5
The Padres lend the Tribe a Hand:
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Post by kaybli on Jul 19, 2018 10:58:15 GMT -5
The Padres lend the Tribe a Hand: That's a pretty good prospect they gave up to get Hand. |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 19, 2018 11:02:31 GMT -5
At least he didn't go the Red Sox or Astros.
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Post by kaybli on Jul 19, 2018 11:09:32 GMT -5
From RAB:
"Pretty much every starting pitcher trade candidate (J.A. Happ, Cole Hamels, Tyson Ross, Nathan Eovaldi, etc.) has stunk lately."
It does mean prices are now lower for them though.
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Post by utahyank on Jul 19, 2018 12:25:20 GMT -5
hmmmm…..I've been thinking that the dearth of good available starters (and, we don't need a mediocre starter) might lead Cashman to add a good reliever and shorten games even more than the Yankees can do now....Hand was desirable...…I am hoping we get Britton....
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Post by michcusejoe5 on Jul 19, 2018 12:33:00 GMT -5
hmmmm…..I've been thinking that the dearth of good available starters (and, we don't need a mediocre starter) might lead Cashman to add a good reliever and shorten games even more than the Yankees can do now....Hand was desirable...…I am hoping we get Britton.... I think we might need ANY starter...good or mediocre, at this point. |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 19, 2018 12:36:35 GMT -5
hmmmm…..I've been thinking that the dearth of good available starters (and, we don't need a mediocre starter) might lead Cashman to add a good reliever and shorten games even more than the Yankees can do now....Hand was desirable...…I am hoping we get Britton.... I think we might need ANY starter...good or mediocre, at this point. Just has to be better than the inconsistent German. |
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Post by michcusejoe5 on Jul 19, 2018 13:23:49 GMT -5
I think we might need ANY starter...good or mediocre, at this point. Just has to be better than the inconsistent German. Right, and even if he did show a bit more consistency...how deep could he pitch into the season? If they are in a tight divisional race they cant have German run up against an innings limit or get fatigued/ineffective then have no fallback option. Same issue with any internal option from the minors. Plus this isnt even to mention the Sonny Gray problem. They dont need to necessarily add a showstopper (even though that might be nice, if the price is right)...they just need to add some reliability. |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 19, 2018 13:28:03 GMT -5
Just has to be better than the inconsistent German. Right, and even if he did show a bit more consistency...how deep could he pitch into the season? If they are in a tight divisional race they cant have German run up against an innings limit or get fatigued/ineffective then have no fallback option. Same issue with any internal option from the minors. Exactly. It's not that I don't believe in German long term. I do. But he may need more seasoning. And he will run into the innings limit you mentioned. |
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Post by kaybli on Jul 19, 2018 13:29:42 GMT -5
Plus this isnt even to mention the Sonny Gray problem. They dont need to necessarily add a showstopper (even though that might be nice, if the price is right)...they just need to add some reliability. If one thinks Gray is unfixable then they need two starters. |
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Post by utahyank on Jul 19, 2018 13:34:18 GMT -5
hmmmm…..I've been thinking that the dearth of good available starters (and, we don't need a mediocre starter) might lead Cashman to add a good reliever and shorten games even more than the Yankees can do now....Hand was desirable...…I am hoping we get Britton.... I think we might need ANY starter...good or mediocre, at this point. the problem, as I see it, is that not winning the East means we would have to expend Severino in the one-game WC playoff, and then face a 5 game Series at a distinct disadvantage....we could run a mediocre starter in Warren out there, who would give us what Hamels or Happ could....we don't need to give up treasure for that.....what we need is a front-line starter the equivalent of an ace....OR...take another approach like the Rays have done, and piece together innings and games.....that would be where an elite relief pitcher like Britton could help.... |
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Post by domeplease on Jul 19, 2018 14:44:42 GMT -5
The Indians picked-up two good Relivers. Going to make it tougher for us...
Right now, if this was the end of season WE would be in the Play-Off Game. If we win that game, we would face up to a 5-game series than up to a 7-game series.
WE would be facing either the Red Sox, Indians, Astro's (two of those).
I have $$$ on the Yankees winning their Division (not looking good, at this point). But NO $$$ on them going to the WS.
Out of my 4-betting buddies that have more $$$ than of us combined (even if we worked until 95-years old each)...
Three of them at the start of the season bet that the Yankees would not make the WS.
Only one did (a Fanatical Yankee Fan). I have won big $$$ from him in recent years betting against the Yankees (I use Facts, the Truth, Reason, Logic & Reality); while he uses his Passion.
He has been pestering me for two bets for Huge $$$; meaning I bet against Yanks making the WS and than another one that the Yanks, if they make the WS do not win the WS.
My Logic, Facts etc. are saying take the BETS; but, but, but...I am not sure.
So, I turn to INGER; my Spiritual Guide (Who wanted to trade the majority of our roster for a Mets Pitcher--Even Jesus wasn't perfect).
INGER: What is your guidance Master?
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Post by inger on Jul 19, 2018 14:52:52 GMT -5
I think we might need ANY starter...good or mediocre, at this point. the problem, as I see it, is that not winning the East means we would have to expend Severino in the one-game WC playoff, and then face a 5 game Series at a distinct disadvantage....we could run a mediocre starter in Warren out there, who would give us what Hamels or Happ could....we don't need to give up treasure for that.....what we need is a front-line starter the equivalent of an ace....OR...take another approach like the Rays have done, and piece together innings and games.....that would be where an elite relief pitcher like Britton could help.... Which leads me to...I wonder why the Yankees gave up on Warren as a starter? He's 30 years old now, and he hasn't started since 2016 when he had one start in Chicago. I don't recall what happened that led to his ineffectiveness in the Windy City, for he had been an effective swing man in NY prior to that and has been an effective reliever since his return to NY. Did he have an arm injury of some sort? Did the Yankees draw a conclusion that Warren couldn't handle the work load of starting? The most pitches he has thrown in a game since his return to NY in the second half of 2016 is the 46 he threw just a bit ago. Starting would require stretching him out. Perhaps the issue was that they felt as though he would be ineffective multiple times through a batting order? There is always a reasoning behind these decisions, but we seldom learn of it... I went back and checked his splits from 2015 when he had seventeen starts and I didn't see a pitcher that revealed an obvious fault that would say that he can't start. I'm thinking the injury or ineffectiveness in Chicago had something to do with it...whatever that was... |
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Post by inger on Jul 19, 2018 14:55:05 GMT -5
The Indians picked-up two good Relivers. Going to make it tougher for us... Right now, if this was the end of season WE would be in the Play-Off Game. If we win that game, we would face up to a 5-game series than up to a 7-game series. WE would be facing either the Red Sox, Indians, Astro's (two of those). I have $$$ on the Yankees winning their Division (not looking good, at this point). But NO $$$ on them going to the WS. Out of my 4-betting buddies that have more $$$ than of us combined (even if we worked until 95-years old each)... Three of them at the start of the season bet that the Yankees would not make the WS. Only one did (a Fanatical Yankee Fan). I have won big $$$ from him in recent years betting against the Yankees (I use Facts, the Truth, Reason, Logic & Reality); while he uses his Passion. He has been pestering me for two bets for Huge $$$; meaning I bet against Yanks making the WS and than another one that the Yanks, if they make the WS do not win the WS. My Logic, Facts etc. are saying take the BETS; but, but, but...I am not sure. So, I turn to INGER; my Spiritual Guide (Who wanted to trade the majority of our roster for a Mets Pitcher--Even Jesus wasn't perfect). INGER: What is your guidance Master? Be patient while I summon the great spirits who know much more than I of such things. I will report back to you later to tell you what they had to say... |
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Post by domeplease on Jul 19, 2018 15:30:05 GMT -5
the problem, as I see it, is that not winning the East means we would have to expend Severino in the one-game WC playoff, and then face a 5 game Series at a distinct disadvantage....we could run a mediocre starter in Warren out there, who would give us what Hamels or Happ could....we don't need to give up treasure for that.....what we need is a front-line starter the equivalent of an ace....OR...take another approach like the Rays have done, and piece together innings and games.....that would be where an elite relief pitcher like Britton could help.... Which leads me to...I wonder why the Yankees gave up on Warren as a starter? He's 30 years old now, and he hasn't started since 2016 when he had one start in Chicago. I don't recall what happened that led to his ineffectiveness in the Windy City, for he had been an effective swing man in NY prior to that and has been an effective reliever since his return to NY. Did he have an arm injury of some sort? Did the Yankees draw a conclusion that Warren couldn't handle the work load of starting? The most pitches he has thrown in a game since his return to NY in the second half of 2016 is the 46 he threw just a bit ago. Starting would require stretching him out. Perhaps the issue was that they felt as though he would be ineffective multiple times through a batting order? There is always a reasoning behind these decisions, but we seldom learn of it... I went back and checked his splits from 2015 when he had seventeen starts and I didn't see a pitcher that revealed an obvious fault that would say that he can't start. I'm thinking the injury or ineffectiveness in Chicago had something to do with it...whatever that was... THE MASTER SPIRITUAL GUIDE (INGER): IS RIGHT...why not move Warren to a SP? Thank you Great Spiritual Guide.
Just one move favor: MEGA LOTTO is up to $422 Million...please by tomorrow morning could you give me 6 numbers so I can get my folks in America to buy me a ticket. Trust me, if I win, YOU will get a "Taste'.
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