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Post by inger on Jun 16, 2019 8:13:44 GMT -5
Trade chips:
Top tier (won’t be moved without great return) Deivi García Dermis García Mike Ford Gleyber Torres Clint Frazier
2nd tier Didi Gregorius Isaiah Gilliam Edwin Encarnacion Gio Urshela Thairo Estrada
3rd tier Tyler Wade Steven Tarpley Joe Harvey Rony García
As we saw yesterday, there are certainly trade chips in the extreme lower levels of the system, as well. Once again, I am intrigued by the Indians and their struggles at 2nd and 3rd, given the number of infielders we have in excess. They also could use a bat in the outfield, though with their pitching injuries they may just decide they can’t reach the playoffs this year...
It would seem we have a mix of available talent that could help a bottom feeder rebuild, or to help solidify a contender...
I’d be surprised to see all of Thairo, Gio, and Clint with the Yankee system when the bloodbath is over...
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Post by greatfatness on Jun 16, 2019 8:57:00 GMT -5
Trade chips: Top tier (won’t be moved without great return) Deivi García Dermis García Mike Ford Gleyber Torres Clint Frazier 2nd tier Didi Gregorius Isaiah Gilliam Edwin Encarnacion Gio Urshela Thairo Estrada 3rd tier Tyler Wade Steven Tarpley Joe Harvey Rony García As we saw yesterday, there are certainly trade chips in the extreme lower levels of the system, as well. Once again, I am intrigued by the Indians and their struggles at 2nd and 3rd, given the number of infielders we have in excess. They also could use a bat in the outfield, though with their pitching injuries they may just decide they can’t reach the playoffs this year... It would seem we have a mix of available talent that could help a bottom feeder rebuild, or to help solidify a contender... I’d be surprised to see all of Thairo, Gio, and Clint with the Yankee system when the bloodbath is over... I think there’s no chance they deal Gleyber. That’s almost impossible to imagine.
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Post by kaybli on Jun 16, 2019 10:10:47 GMT -5
Mike Ford top tier? Am I missing something?
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Post by greatfatness on Jun 16, 2019 10:13:28 GMT -5
Mike Ford top tier? Am I missing something? Unless he has $10,000,000 in his pocket nobody is trading for Mike Ford.
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Post by inger on Jun 16, 2019 11:28:35 GMT -5
Mike Ford top tier? Am I missing something? Let’s say that I’m not giving a guy that’s batting .333 with and OBP over .400 in AAA away for nothing, Even in MLB, he’s got a .379 OBP. He can be a premium bat. I think he should have gotten a better chance to give us what we needed from the left side...
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Post by kaybli on Jun 21, 2019 0:59:57 GMT -5
Simply put, the Yankees will not move years of Frazier for a few months of a Wheeler or Bumgarner, according to multiple major league sources.
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Post by inger on Jun 21, 2019 7:54:32 GMT -5
Simply put, the Yankees will not move years of Frazier for a few months of a Wheeler or Bumgarner, according to multiple major league sources.
Nor would I... If you go to Rent A Center you’re not going to pay for a long term agreement, right? I’m asking because I’ve never been to Rent A Center... I’ve rented a home before...tools...moving truck... car trailer... Can’t imagine scenario where I’d rent furniture, TV, appliances. Guess it happens...I always imagined those stores to be a little like payday lenders. Usurious credit terms. JUST 3.99% (Third Tuesday of any month in which the full moon occurs before the first Monday, otherwise 27.99%, fees and handling apply). Offer can be rescinded any time without notice, in particular if the full moon actually DOES occur before the first Monday of the month. This is because, face it , you dope. Did you really think we were going to let your credit-starved ass skate at 3.99% despite your 522 credit score?... <Play jingle> Rent A Center, where we take care of yooooouuuu!...
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Post by greatfatness on Jun 21, 2019 9:09:27 GMT -5
Simply put, the Yankees will not move years of Frazier for a few months of a Wheeler or Bumgarner, according to multiple major league sources.
I agree with this, several years of cost controlled Frazier don’t merit a rental. That said, I’m not trading much of anything for Wheeler. Do these guys know what they’re writing about? I guess if the Mets wanted to trade Wheeler for Cessa, Ford and Tauchman I would listen but honestly he’s not that good.
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Post by inger on Jun 21, 2019 9:54:07 GMT -5
Simply put, the Yankees will not move years of Frazier for a few months of a Wheeler or Bumgarner, according to multiple major league sources.
I agree with this, several years of cost controlled Frazier don’t merit a rental. That said, I’m not trading much of anything for Wheeler. Do these guys know what they’re writing about? I guess if the Mets wanted to trade Wheeler for Cessa, Ford and Tauchman I would listen but honestly he’s not that good. It’s been rumored that the Yankees “love Wheeler’s arm”. I guess that means they see a potential breakout pitcher if they get tinker with him. If you acquire him as a #5 and then tinker and get a #2, it’s great. As long as you pay for the #5 in case that’s what he remains being. At this point, I see a Value much lower than that of Frazier... Cessa, Ford, and Tauchman... the new IPK, Melky, Igawa package...
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Post by rizzuto on Jun 21, 2019 10:18:52 GMT -5
I agree with this, several years of cost controlled Frazier don’t merit a rental. That said, I’m not trading much of anything for Wheeler. Do these guys know what they’re writing about? I guess if the Mets wanted to trade Wheeler for Cessa, Ford and Tauchman I would listen but honestly he’s not that good. It’s been rumored that the Yankees “love Wheeler’s arm”. I guess that means they see a potential breakout pitcher if they get tinker with him. If you acquire him as a #5 and then tinker and get a #2, it’s great. As long as you pay for the #5 in case that’s what he remains being. At this point, I see a Value much lower than that of Frazier... Cessa, Ford, and Tauchman... the new IPK, Melky, Igawa package... They love his arm but hate everything else. If he is traded, the Yankees have alerted everybody, do not under any circumstances touch his arm, but you can beat the hell out of the rest of him.
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Post by domeplease on Jun 21, 2019 10:41:47 GMT -5
bleacherreport.com/articles/2842043-yankees-facing-no-excuse-pressure-to-grab-superstar-ace-capture-2019-title?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=referral There are moments when all of the elements in the New York Yankees' pitching universe are in perfect sync, making it almost possible to forget how desperately they need another starter. Almost.
Masahiro Tanaka's splitter reawakens, J.A. Happ's four-seam fastball becomes a weapon again and CC Sabathia's knee stops hurting. The Yankees can look as invincible as they did while sweeping the Tampa Bay Rays this week, convincing you the road to October—and specifically through the Houston Astros—is obstacle-free.
That would be true, except general manager Brian Cashman knows better. He said as much after trading for Edwin Encarnacion over the weekend, creating a lineup with frightening home run potential. Despite the upgrade, Cashman admitted, "I've got more work to do."
There was no need to explain further. The Yankees hit a record-setting 267 HRs last year but got knocked out in the American League Division Series. The real search is for pitching, not power—for the standalone ace who can match up with Justin Verlander or David Price.
After a steady ascent since 2016, the Yankees can't be content with another 100-win season if it ends with an early-round playoff exit. That's why the hunt begins and ends with Max Scherzer, the starter who can take the Bombers to the next level of dominance.
Is the Washington Nationals ace available? That remains to be seen. If the July 31 trade deadline were today, it's unlikely the Yankees—or anyone—would land Scherzer. But there are still approximately six weeks left for Cashman to outmaneuver his peers, not to mention convince Nationals GM Mike Rizzo that Washington would be better off without the game's most talented righty.
Here's one argument the Yankees could make: Scherzer will have 10-and-5 rights in 2020, which means he will control the narrative—he can veto any trade as if he had a full no-trade clause—not the club. The right-hander is making $37 million this year and is owed another $70-plus million through 2021.
If Rizzo is mulling the financial freedom that'd come with moving Scherzer, he'd be wise to act sooner than later. While the Yankees won't be the only ones pursuing Scherzer, owner Hal Steinbrenner effectively gave Cashman the go-ahead Wednesday to exceed the highest luxury-tax threshold ($246 million) if it meant significantly improving the roster. The Yankees are currently $20 million under that threshold. READ MORE...
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Post by greatfatness on Jun 21, 2019 12:49:18 GMT -5
I agree with this, several years of cost controlled Frazier don’t merit a rental. That said, I’m not trading much of anything for Wheeler. Do these guys know what they’re writing about? I guess if the Mets wanted to trade Wheeler for Cessa, Ford and Tauchman I would listen but honestly he’s not that good. It’s been rumored that the Yankees “love Wheeler’s arm”. I guess that means they see a potential breakout pitcher if they get tinker with him. If you acquire him as a #5 and then tinker and get a #2, it’s great. As long as you pay for the #5 in case that’s what he remains being. At this point, I see a Value much lower than that of Frazier... Cessa, Ford, and Tauchman... the new IPK, Melky, Igawa package... Reminds me of Jeff Weaver. He had a great arm also and was a lousy pitcher.
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 21, 2019 13:22:34 GMT -5
It’s been rumored that the Yankees “love Wheeler’s arm”. I guess that means they see a potential breakout pitcher if they get tinker with him. If you acquire him as a #5 and then tinker and get a #2, it’s great. As long as you pay for the #5 in case that’s what he remains being. At this point, I see a Value much lower than that of Frazier... Cessa, Ford, and Tauchman... the new IPK, Melky, Igawa package... Reminds me of Jeff Weaver. He had a great arm also and was a lousy pitcher. Jeff Weaver drove me crazy. Such great stuff, but not much between the ears. I thought that's where Eovaldi was headed, but he managed to pull it together, at least for awhile.
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Post by utahyank on Jun 21, 2019 13:50:07 GMT -5
Mike Ford top tier? Am I missing something? Let’s say that I’m not giving a guy that’s batting .333 with and OBP over .400 in AAA away for nothing, Even in MLB, he’s got a .379 OBP. He can be a premium bat. I think he should have gotten a better chance to give us what we needed from the left side... Ford doesn't have an available roster spot in NY, does he?....what would you do with Voit?....platoon?...Edwin and LeMahieu play first as well, so I don't think the Yankees want to add another 1B...the 25 man roster is squeezing some position players right now... If some of the GM's see what you do in Ford, it will be good for the Yankees...…...
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Post by inger on Jun 21, 2019 13:51:15 GMT -5
We’re pitching Jeff Weaver I don’t believe He’ll make it Past the third
He was Jeff Weaver The whole time In New York He was a turd
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