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Post by rizzuto on May 11, 2024 8:33:04 GMT -5
Yes, he was a coach and then commentator during my youth, but they would often show clips of those dominating Celtic teams. Dave Cowens had a fine hook shot, and Bird and Walton could shoot them with either hand. The voice like Fred Flintstone. A college teammate of Bob Cousy at Holy Cross. Both taken by the Celtics during the era of regional draft rights. Same way the Philadelphia Warriors got Wilt (and Paul Arizin and Tom Gola and Guy Rodgers, all great players back in the day.) I had no idea about regional drafts. I guess I always figured teams drafted nearby players they knew and were able to see regularly. He did sound just like Fred Flintstone! š |
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Post by inger on May 11, 2024 8:33:48 GMT -5
Two separate conversations going, one about Joba Chamberlain, the other about Wilt Chamberlain. I just thought Iād slide a word in for Ice Box Chamberlain while weāre at itā¦
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Post by pippsheadache on May 11, 2024 8:39:01 GMT -5
Bill Russell would disagree. The only man who perhaps could at least give Wilt a battleā¦ but I believe Wilt still comes out on top. I wonder what heād do in todays game? Wilt would adjust and do fine. Plus they wouldn't be allowed to hang on him like they could back in the 50s and 60s. Wilt was superhumanly strong. Never forget that Russell's Celtics won 11 rings during his 13 years, all but one of which coincided with Wilt's career. And yes Russell had a great supporting cast, but so did Wilt for much of that time -- Hal Greer and Billy Cunningham and Chet Walker and Luke Jackson and Wally Jones with the Sixers, then Jerry West and Elgin Baylor and Gail Goodrich and Happy Hairston and Pat Riley with the Lakers. Even with the Warriors when he started he had HOFers like Paul Arizin and Tom Gola and Guy Rodgers. Of course the Celtics had the genius Red Auerbach running things. |
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Post by pippsheadache on May 11, 2024 8:42:26 GMT -5
The voice like Fred Flintstone. A college teammate of Bob Cousy at Holy Cross. Both taken by the Celtics during the era of regional draft rights. Same way the Philadelphia Warriors got Wilt (and Paul Arizin and Tom Gola and Guy Rodgers, all great players back in the day.) I had no idea about regional drafts. I guess I always figured teams drafted nearby players they knew and were able to see regularly. He did sound just like Fred Flintstone! š Hockey was worse. The Canadiens had some kind of special draft rights for French Canadian players to allow them to keep their identity. It was kind of fun in a way, but it definitely helped them win so many Cups. |
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Post by inger on May 11, 2024 9:16:09 GMT -5
The only man who perhaps could at least give Wilt a battleā¦ but I believe Wilt still comes out on top. I wonder what heād do in todays game? Wilt would adjust and do fine. Plus they wouldn't be allowed to hang on him like they could back in the 50s and 60s. Wilt was superhumanly strong. Never forget that Russell's Celtics won 11 rings during his 13 years, all but one of which coincided with Wilt's career. And yes Russell had a great supporting cast, but so did Wilt for much of that time -- Hal Greer and Billy Cunningham and Chet Walker and Luke Jackson and Wally Jones with the Sixers, then Jerry West and Elgin Baylor and Gail Goodrich and Happy Hairston and Pat Riley with the Lakers. Even with the Warriors when he started he had HOFers like Paul Arizin and Tom Gola and Guy Rodgers. Of course the Celtics had the genius Red Auerbach running things. I read the other day that he blocked 8.8 shots per game. Thatās insaneā¦ |
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Post by rizzuto on May 11, 2024 11:53:42 GMT -5
Wilt would adjust and do fine. Plus they wouldn't be allowed to hang on him like they could back in the 50s and 60s. Wilt was superhumanly strong. Never forget that Russell's Celtics won 11 rings during his 13 years, all but one of which coincided with Wilt's career. And yes Russell had a great supporting cast, but so did Wilt for much of that time -- Hal Greer and Billy Cunningham and Chet Walker and Luke Jackson and Wally Jones with the Sixers, then Jerry West and Elgin Baylor and Gail Goodrich and Happy Hairston and Pat Riley with the Lakers. Even with the Warriors when he started he had HOFers like Paul Arizin and Tom Gola and Guy Rodgers. Of course the Celtics had the genius Red Auerbach running things. I read the other day that he blocked 8.8 shots per game. Thatās insaneā¦ Difficult to know, as they werenāt keeping statistics for blocks back then. |
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Post by chiyankee on May 11, 2024 14:01:17 GMT -5
Wilt would adjust and do fine. Plus they wouldn't be allowed to hang on him like they could back in the 50s and 60s. Wilt was superhumanly strong. Never forget that Russell's Celtics won 11 rings during his 13 years, all but one of which coincided with Wilt's career. And yes Russell had a great supporting cast, but so did Wilt for much of that time -- Hal Greer and Billy Cunningham and Chet Walker and Luke Jackson and Wally Jones with the Sixers, then Jerry West and Elgin Baylor and Gail Goodrich and Happy Hairston and Pat Riley with the Lakers. Even with the Warriors when he started he had HOFers like Paul Arizin and Tom Gola and Guy Rodgers. Of course the Celtics had the genius Red Auerbach running things. I read the other day that he blocked 8.8 shots per game. Thatās insaneā¦ With no 3 point shooting back then, there were more opportunities to block shots, plus Russell was a defensive freak. |
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Post by inger on May 11, 2024 14:50:43 GMT -5
Plus, Wilt estimated himself that he scored some 24,000 āotherā goals. Thatās quite a feat, tooā¦Of course they werenāt keeping statistics for that then eitherā¦
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Post by Max on May 12, 2024 10:21:04 GMT -5
Wilt would adjust and do fine. Plus they wouldn't be allowed to hang on him like they could back in the 50s and 60s. Wilt was superhumanly strong. Never forget that Russell's Celtics won 11 rings during his 13 years, all but one of which coincided with Wilt's career. And yes Russell had a great supporting cast, but so did Wilt for much of that time -- Hal Greer and Billy Cunningham and Chet Walker and Luke Jackson and Wally Jones with the Sixers, then Jerry West and Elgin Baylor and Gail Goodrich and Happy Hairston and Pat Riley with the Lakers. Even with the Warriors when he started he had HOFers like Paul Arizin and Tom Gola and Guy Rodgers. Of course the Celtics had the genius Red Auerbach running things. I read the other day that he blocked 8.8 shots per game. Thatās insaneā¦ I could be wrong, but I think that's an estimated stat because I'm pretty sure that the NBA didn't keep track of that stat when Russell played. Estimated or not that still a great per game average. He was such a great player he might have averaged even more than that. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on May 12, 2024 11:21:17 GMT -5
I read the other day that he blocked 8.8 shots per game. Thatās insaneā¦ I could be wrong, but I think that's an estimated stat because I'm pretty sure that the NBA didn't keep track of that stat when Russell played. Estimated or not that still a great per game average. He was such a great player he might have averaged even more than that. This is from memory so I could be wrong, but am thinking the 3 second rule was implemented to keep Wilt from standing in the lane and clogging things up. Is that correct or am I misremembering? |
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Post by rizzuto on May 12, 2024 11:36:24 GMT -5
I could be wrong, but I think that's an estimated stat because I'm pretty sure that the NBA didn't keep track of that stat when Russell played. Estimated or not that still a great per game average. He was such a great player he might have averaged even more than that. This is from memory so I could be wrong, but am thinking the 3 second rule was implemented to keep Wilt from standing in the lane and clogging things up. Is that correct or am I misremembering?Ā The lane was widened because of Wilt, just like they did for George Mikan. Also, the reason a player has to wait to cross the free throw line until the ball hits the rim is because Wilt could take two steps behind the line and dunk the basketball before touching the ground. Also, offensive goal tending was eliminated, as well as the inbounding rule, as Wilt could dunk the ball by jumping from out of bounds. The three seconds rule was introduced in 1944 in college ball because of a player named Leroy Edwards who was only 6ā5ā but a beast inside (I imagine a Charles Barkley type). |
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