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Post by azbob643 on May 27, 2024 14:11:02 GMT -5
Last but not least.. Gleyber might be breaking out of his slump, because in his last 4 games he's 5-14 that's a .357 batting average. I was gonna post this earlier, then I saw Chi posted it in another thread... Last 14 Games: .289 / .333 / .539 / .872 / 3 HR / 9 RBI
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Post by inger on May 27, 2024 14:23:17 GMT -5
Or maybe take Kuhn’s name out of that sentence and just say the worst ever… Happy Chandler would like a word with you. No time on my schedule for anyone named Happy…
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Post by qimqam on May 27, 2024 14:52:00 GMT -5
He did, but that loss was a team effort. Let’s take a realistic, unbiased look at that inning…1. E-4 / Cronenworth to 1B. 2. BB / Machado to 1B / Cronenworth to 2B. 3. BB / Solano to 1B / Machado to 2B / Cronenworth 3B. 4. FC* / Merrill to 1B/ Machado to 3B / Cronenworth scores. *Gonzalez fails to cover 1B for DP 5. Base Hit* / Kim to 1B / Merrill to 3B / Machado scores. *(E-3?) 6. Fly out / Campusano flies out to center fielder Aaron Judge. 7. Base Hit / Arraez to 1B / Kim to 3B / Merrill scores. 8. Base Hit / Tatis Jr. singles to 1B / Arraez to 2B / Kim scores. 9. Strikeout / Profar strikes out. 4 Runs on 2 Walks / 3 Hits / 1 Error
Assuming Gleyber doesnt make the error and everything plays out the same after the 1st batter ... Though Schmidt probably would have remained in the game) 1. Cronenworth ground out 4-3 (1 OUT) 2. BB / Machado to 1B 3. BB / Solano to 1B / Machado to 2B 4. FC* / Merrill to 1B/ Machado to 3B (2 OUT) *Gonzalez fails to cover 1B for DP 5. Base Hit* / Kim to 1B / Merrill to 3B / Machado scores. 6. Fly out (3 OU) inning over End of 6th 1-1
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Post by azbob643 on May 27, 2024 14:59:15 GMT -5
Let’s take a realistic, unbiased look at that inning…1. E-4 / Cronenworth to 1B. 2. BB / Machado to 1B / Cronenworth to 2B. 3. BB / Solano to 1B / Machado to 2B / Cronenworth 3B. 4. FC* / Merrill to 1B/ Machado to 3B / Cronenworth scores. *Gonzalez fails to cover 1B for DP 5. Base Hit* / Kim to 1B / Merrill to 3B / Machado scores. *(E-3?) 6. Fly out / Campusano flies out to center fielder Aaron Judge. 7. Base Hit / Arraez to 1B / Kim to 3B / Merrill scores. 8. Base Hit / Tatis Jr. singles to 1B / Arraez to 2B / Kim scores. 9. Strikeout / Profar strikes out. 4 Runs on 2 Walks / 3 Hits / 1 Error
Assuming Gleyber doesnt make the error and everything plays out the same after the 1st batter ... Though Schmidt probably would have remained in the game) 1. Cronenworth ground out 4-3 (1 OUT) 2. BB / Machado to 1B 3. BB / Solano to 1B / Machado to 2B 4. FC* / Merrill to 1B/ Machado to 3B (2 OUT) *Gonzalez fails to cover 1B for DP 5. Base Hit* / Kim to 1B / Merrill to 3B / Machado scores. 6. Fly out (3 OU) inning over End of 6th 1-1 Assume what you want...or you can deal with the reality.
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Post by Max on May 27, 2024 14:59:45 GMT -5
Or maybe take Kuhn’s name out of that sentence and just say the worst ever… Happy Chandler would like a word with you.
I wonder if Kuhn would have voided Ohtani's deferred contract.
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Post by inger on May 27, 2024 16:18:03 GMT -5
Assuming Gleyber doesnt make the error and everything plays out the same after the 1st batter ... Though Schmidt probably would have remained in the game) 1. Cronenworth ground out 4-3 (1 OUT) 2. BB / Machado to 1B 3. BB / Solano to 1B / Machado to 2B 4. FC* / Merrill to 1B/ Machado to 3B (2 OUT) *Gonzalez fails to cover 1B for DP 5. Base Hit* / Kim to 1B / Merrill to 3B / Machado scores. 6. Fly out (3 OU) inning over End of 6th 1-1 Assume what you want...or you can deal with the reality. Regardless of what one plAyer does on any one particular play it’s still everyone else’s responsibility to do their job. A lead off error doesn’t excuse walks of another questionable play. That said, Gleyber’s season has been disappointing at the plate, on the field and on the bases so far. Since there’s 2/3 of a season left all he needs to do offensively is play up to his career average of .269 to reach about .250, and start driving the ball, which we know he’s capable of… to hit 20-25 HR. We were patient for Judge. Be patient for Gleyber as well…
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Post by azbob643 on May 27, 2024 16:26:03 GMT -5
Assume what you want...or you can deal with the reality. Regardless of what one plAyer does on any one particular play it’s still everyone else’s responsibility to do their job. A lead off error doesn’t excuse walks of another questionable play. That said, Gleyber’s season has been disappointing at the plate, on the field and on the bases so far. Since there’s 2/3 of a season left all he needs to do offensively is play up to his career average of .269 to reach about .250, and start driving the ball, which we know he’s capable of… to hit 20-25 HR. We were patient for Judge. Be patient for Gleyber as well… What I find "interesting" is that some "fans" are quick to jump on Gleyber, yet nothing was said re Gonzalez's failure to cover 1B on the DP ball or Rizzo's obvious E-3. Both of those misplays were instrumental in extending the inning and adding more runs for the Padres. Quite obviously a double standard. I've already posted what Gleyber has done offensively over the past 2 weeks, including his 2 hits in yesterday's game...both times he was LOB by subsequent hitters. Guess that's OK.
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Post by inger on May 27, 2024 17:22:56 GMT -5
Regardless of what one plAyer does on any one particular play it’s still everyone else’s responsibility to do their job. A lead off error doesn’t excuse walks of another questionable play. That said, Gleyber’s season has been disappointing at the plate, on the field and on the bases so far. Since there’s 2/3 of a season left all he needs to do offensively is play up to his career average of .269 to reach about .250, and start driving the ball, which we know he’s capable of… to hit 20-25 HR. We were patient for Judge. Be patient for Gleyber as well… What I find "interesting" is that some "fans" are quick to jump on Gleyber, yet nothing was said re Gonzalez's failure to cover 1B on the DP ball or Rizzo's obvious E-3. Both of those misplays were instrumental in extending the inning and adding more runs for the Padres. Quite obviously a double standard. I've already posted what Gleyber has done offensively over the past 2 weeks, including his 2 hits in yesterday's game...both times he was LOB by subsequent hitters. Guess that's OK. Oh, something was said in my house. 🤓 …
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Post by azbob643 on May 27, 2024 17:38:00 GMT -5
What I find "interesting" is that some "fans" are quick to jump on Gleyber, yet nothing was said re Gonzalez's failure to cover 1B on the DP ball or Rizzo's obvious E-3. Both of those misplays were instrumental in extending the inning and adding more runs for the Padres. Quite obviously a double standard. I've already posted what Gleyber has done offensively over the past 2 weeks, including his 2 hits in yesterday's game...both times he was LOB by subsequent hitters. Guess that's OK. Oh, something was said in my house. 🤓 … That's good...an objective fan...obviously in short supply here.
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Post by inger on May 27, 2024 17:48:10 GMT -5
Oh, something was said in my house. 🤓 … That's good...an objective fan...obviously in short supply here. Gleyber has a track record that’s caused him to be whipping boy. I think most of us thought he’d “grow out of it”, but he’s 28 now and that hasn’t happened. Maybe in the second 1/2 this year? We’ll see. At least he wants to stay in NY. He may have to give a discount I’d he doesn’t sharpen up, or get a one year deal…Hope not, but it is what it is…
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Post by azbob643 on May 27, 2024 17:57:17 GMT -5
That's good...an objective fan...obviously in short supply here. Gleyber has a track record that’s caused him to be whipping boy. I think most of us thought he’d “grow out of it”, but he’s 28 now and that hasn’t happened. Maybe in the second 1/2 this year? We’ll see. At least he wants to stay in NY. He may have to give a discount I’d he doesn’t sharpen up, or get a one year deal…Hope not, but it is what it is… An objective "fan" doesn't have or need a whipping boy...but that's typical of some who consider themselves fans. Some Yankee "fans" are notorious that way. Last year, when high-priced acquisition Trea Turner struggled early on in Philadelphia, Phillie fans, never know to be particularly understanding or forgiving, chose to cheer & support him. He responded with a season which help take them to the NLCS. Maybe some Yankee "fans" can learn a little something from that.
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Post by qimqam on May 27, 2024 21:40:36 GMT -5
Assuming Gleyber doesnt make the error and everything plays out the same after the 1st batter ... Though Schmidt probably would have remained in the game) 1. Cronenworth ground out 4-3 (1 OUT) 2. BB / Machado to 1B 3. BB / Solano to 1B / Machado to 2B 4. FC* / Merrill to 1B/ Machado to 3B (2 OUT) *Gonzalez fails to cover 1B for DP 5. Base Hit* / Kim to 1B / Merrill to 3B / Machado scores. 6. Fly out (3 OU) inning over End of 6th 1-1 Assume what you want...or you can deal with the reality. The Reality is Gleyber made an error that started a 4 run inning that worst case probably would have been a 1 run inning if he did not
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Post by qimqam on May 27, 2024 21:58:05 GMT -5
Regardless of what one plAyer does on any one particular play it’s still everyone else’s responsibility to do their job. A lead off error doesn’t excuse walks of another questionable play. That said, Gleyber’s season has been disappointing at the plate, on the field and on the bases so far. Since there’s 2/3 of a season left all he needs to do offensively is play up to his career average of .269 to reach about .250, and start driving the ball, which we know he’s capable of… to hit 20-25 HR. We were patient for Judge. Be patient for Gleyber as well… What I find "interesting" is that some "fans" are quick to jump on Gleyber, yet nothing was said re Gonzalez's failure to cover 1B on the DP ball or Rizzo's obvious E-3. Both of those misplays were instrumental in extending the inning and adding more runs for the Padres. Quite obviously a double standard. I've already posted what Gleyber has done offensively over the past 2 weeks, including his 2 hits in yesterday's game...both times he was LOB by subsequent hitters. Guess that's OK. Gonzalez is a nobody with 0 fan expectations and he wouldnt have been in the game if not for Gleybers error Rizzo is an old player on the downside of his career that will likely and hopefully be gone after this season in favor of a younger upcoming player ... he hasnt been good for 2 years Gleyber is a young talented, polarizing player, expected to be take a small step forward to become a star rather than a massive fall towards replacement-level player in his walk year. Are you satisfied with Gleybers performance so far? Do you want him resigned and at what price?
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Post by inger on May 27, 2024 22:16:41 GMT -5
I’ve lobbied to trade him for years. Why? Because I saw a talent potential that was above what I felt we were getting. In other words, I thought we could trade him for a big haul that would offer more than he could produce.
All-in-all I’d rather see him reach his potential. What is that? Cleaner “D”. A 280/30/100 bat on a yearly basis. It’s still possible. I’m going to try to look into this a bit further, but I do believe that “something” is wrong with the team’s DP combo. We just don’t seem to turn as many as we should. Why? Is it Volpe? Or is it Gleyber? Was it Gleyber before Volpe got here? Or the previous parade of SS?
His offense likely does make up for his defensive deficiencies, so… he’s not the worst player we could feature at 2B…
I’m saying this without having researched near enough, but I’m assuming that my feeling that we miss too many DP opportunities. The raw numbers look weak, but then again, there are a lot more K’s that in the days when the keystone players would turn over 100 DPs each per year.
Guess I brought it up, so it’s up to me to make sense of the numbers…
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Post by azbob643 on May 27, 2024 22:25:48 GMT -5
Are you satisfied with Gleybers performance so far? Do you want him resigned and at what price? Of course, I’m not satisfied with Gleyber’s performance…”so far” being the operative phrase. As I said during the off-season, Yanks should wait until the end of the season to decide whether to resign him and at what price. I’m not gonna speculate as to what that price should be at this point, but I believe him when he says he wants to remain a Yankee and won’t make his decision based solely on the money offered. I’ve also said many times that I believe he’s best suited for 3B, and that’s where he’ll eventually end up, with the Yanks or another team.
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