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Post by chiyankee on Jul 14, 2024 14:22:58 GMT -5
Ok but no team looks like a Goliath this year either in the AL. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The Astros are coming together, and the pieces are jelling. After a terrible start, they're 37-21 over the last two months, and about to take over 1st in the Central again. Until the Yanks prove they can beat them in the post-season, they're still the Astros. This O's team has struggled lately but have more than enough pieces on their farm to trade for a top starter, like Crochet of White Sox, to shore up their rotation. Yanks have too many holes and not enough assets to trade for more than just a good reliever or two, and that's not going to be enough. It makes big difference if Gil's move to his slider keeps working, but Stroman and Rodon are rotation problems, and if they take them out of the rotation, they both might quit on the team. You could make the case Houston, Cleveland and Boston are the three best teams in the AL right now, regardless of records and based on how they are playing right now. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 14, 2024 14:23:04 GMT -5
Few things more frustrating than relief pitchers who can't throw strikes. Exactly. Holmes is a FA and it looks like to me he is pitching himself out of NY. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 14, 2024 14:23:17 GMT -5
This just isn't a real title contender. A real title contender makes the tough fight back from behind twice, and once Rice hits his enormous clutch shot, steps on the throat of their main competition. Holmes just simply doesn't get enough swings and misses to K enough guys and when good hitters make contact, bad things can happen. Title contendeers don't blow the 3rd out twice. Title contenders don't turn a leadoff single into bases loaded with 2 walks when they're trying to close things out. They seem certain to make the playoffs, but I don't know how far they'll get. As currently constructed, it won't be a ring. Baltimore just finished their homestand 1-5 and should have went 0-6. There's a lot of up and downs during the season. I know. You're right, of course. But this team has too many holes in the lineup, at least two in the rotation, and they need a real closer and at least one more releiver, a power lefty. They might try solving both at once by trading for Tanner Scott, but the Marlins will make them pay a far too heavy price. In the post-season, you only need 3 good starters and it things hold together, Cole, Gil and Cortes might be good enough. But there are too many holes on this team. How many holes do you see on the O's? Maybe the back of their rotation? The problem there is they have one of the top farms in baseball and can overpay for a quality starter without hurting themselves. They're a likely candidate to wind up with Garrett Crochet, if the White Sox really make him available. Just one example. |
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Post by Max on Jul 14, 2024 14:23:27 GMT -5
Can't blame that on Holmes. Yes, he put runners on, but he got the third out twice. Can't blame it on him alone, but he played a big part if not the biggest part of the Yankees losing that game, despite him getting some favorable calls from the home plate umpire. |
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 14, 2024 14:23:34 GMT -5
Verdugo is another one I don’t care if I don’t ever see again. Defenses lapses... A fan favorite here not long ago. Defensive lapses? Other than today...when? |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 14, 2024 14:24:28 GMT -5
Ruined what would’ve been the biggest win of the year and a great feeling heading into the break. As was mentioned they’re phony contenders as they lack killer instinct and the intangibles needed to win a championship. Holmes needs to be out of the closing role immediately. Frankly, he could be released for all I care. Runners on every single time he’s out there it seems. Verdugo is another one I don’t care if I don’t ever see again. Defenses lapses mixed in with a terrible fall off at the plate. Grisham is more productive right now. I think releasing him would be a gross misuse of assets. If you put him back in the setup role, with a solid closer behind, I think it takes the pressure off him and he's got enough to be a very good 7th-8th inning guy. |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Jul 14, 2024 14:25:11 GMT -5
The Astros are coming together, and the pieces are jelling. After a terrible start, they're 37-21 over the last two months, and about to take over 1st in the Central again. Until the Yanks prove they can beat them in the post-season, they're still the Astros. This O's team has struggled lately but have more than enough pieces on their farm to trade for a top starter, like Crochet of White Sox, to shore up their rotation. Yanks have too many holes and not enough assets to trade for more than just a good reliever or two, and that's not going to be enough. It makes big difference if Gil's move to his slider keeps working, but Stroman and Rodon are rotation problems, and if they take them out of the rotation, they both might quit on the team. You could make the case Houston, Cleveland and Boston are the three best teams in the AL right now, regardless of records and based on how they are playing right now. Yeah, and if the Rays pitching comes together as I think it might, with Cash managing, they'll be back in there for a Wild Card, too. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 14, 2024 14:25:17 GMT -5
Holmes is a FA and it looks like to me he is pitching himself out of NY. There will be a long line of teams wanting to sign him. As was already mentioned, he would be fine as a 8th inning set up man, but his wildness and inability to strike guys out make him a poor choice as closer. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 14, 2024 14:25:19 GMT -5
CASHMAN: how about getting a TRUE CLOSER He came in with a two run lead against Boston, they tie the game then this loss to Baltimore. Despite the bad defense he just walks too many batters!!! And a left fielder and a second baseman and a third baseman another starting pitcher. After 50 games or so I was thinking the Yankees may want to resign Verdugo after this season but IMO he's another FA who is making the decison to let him walk pretty easy. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jul 14, 2024 14:26:40 GMT -5
You could make the case Houston, Cleveland and Boston are the three best teams in the AL right now, regardless of records and based on how they are playing right now. Yeah, and if the Rays pitching comes together as I think it might, with Cash managing, they'll be back in there for a Wild Card, too. But that could change in a month, lets see what happens with the trade deadline. |
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Post by Max on Jul 14, 2024 14:27:10 GMT -5
This team does have a habit of beating itself more often than you would expect. That trainwreck in the bottom of the 9th inning makes me feel like the Yankees lost a series that they actually won. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jul 14, 2024 14:27:22 GMT -5
I just feel like this is one of those seasons where the teams are just too close in the standings to really make any kind of valid assessment till after the trade deadline.
This might be like 2017 where the Astros got verlander and that was the trade that propelled them to the World Series.
I dunno who "Verlander" is this year at the trade deadline but this isn't going to be one of those years where incremental upgrades are going to be enough for anyone.
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Post by pimmersj on Jul 14, 2024 14:28:03 GMT -5
Verdugo hasn’t homered since June 14th and has four RBIs in that span. His on base and slugging has naturally plummeted. In other words has added nothing when they’ve really needed him the last month.
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Post by azbob643 on Jul 14, 2024 14:28:26 GMT -5
Can't blame that on Holmes. Yes, he put runners on, but he got the third out twice. Can't blame it on him alone, but he played a big part if not the biggest part of the Yankees losing that game, despite him getting some favorable calls from the home plate umpire. Not an excuse for Volpe, but a relief pitcher who goes deep into counts and walks hitters doesn't help infielders. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Jul 14, 2024 14:28:31 GMT -5
Verdugo is another one I don’t care if I don’t ever see again. Defenses lapses... A fan favorite here not long ago. Defensive lapses? Other than today...when? I think he's played pretty good D, the throw to 3rd today and the botched flyball isn't somthing we would expect to see from him but I just don't like his abs. Isn't as patient as he's been in the past and a lot of soft contact. |
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