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Post by kaybli on Oct 7, 2024 17:08:29 GMT -5
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 7, 2024 18:57:09 GMT -5
Gil has to be crushed that he's not making that start.
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Post by Max on Oct 8, 2024 11:44:30 GMT -5
I might be totally wrong.. But unless there are other veteran 1B options, I'm not sure if the Yankees want to start their 2025 season with the possibility of having a rookie 2Bman and two 1Bmen (Rice, OC) that haven't proved yet if they can hit MLB pitching on a consistent basis. I think you are right and I haven't looked at what FAs are available. Yanks like Rizzo's leadership so I suspect he's back. I just feel that Cash too often signs guys to deals past their prime years. I get you have to do that with the superstars but he needs to be smarter with the guys who ain't superstars. Everything hinges on Soto. I agree. I hope the Soto situation doesn't move at a snail's pace. The Yankees should make him their best take or leave it offer. I would hate to see the Yankees miss out on signing other free agents because they waited for Soto only to find that he signed with another team.
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Post by Max on Oct 8, 2024 11:49:01 GMT -5
I think he might sign team friendly contract with the Yankees. Do they want him back at his age and general decline? Not sure that they do. I guess it depends on if they re-sign Soto or not. If they don't re-sign him, signing Bregman to play 3B and moving Jazz back to 2B is an option. In a scenario like that I could see the Yankees starting their season with an unproven MLB hitter playing 1B (Rice, Rumfield).
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Post by Max on Oct 8, 2024 12:07:44 GMT -5
Gil has to be crushed that he's not making that start. Probably, but after not pitching last season Gil has thrown 151.2 innings so far this season.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Oct 8, 2024 15:32:59 GMT -5
Gil has to be crushed that he's not making that start. Probably, but after not pitching last season Gil has thrown 151.2 innings so far this season. I might be wrong, but I think, rightly or wrongly, it's also because Schmidt has more experience, and is more unlikely to lose his slot and overthrow, and start walking everybody, which the team can't afford in game 3 if they want to have a bullpen in game 4. Schmidt's command isn't that great, but it's better than Gil's. I don't mind having Gil piggyback on Schmidt's start if he can make it through at least 4. Also, the long layoff between starts caused by the 5 days off is likely to throw Gil way off his command. Gil has had 4 starts this year on 7, 8 or 9 days of rest (and the 1st start off the IL in which he had 16 days of rest, but not really, as he threw a rehab start at AAA just 5 days before). Of the 4, he had his command in one of them, the start on nine days' rest, oddly enough, but in the other three, he walked 5 in 5 innings, 7 in 5 innings and 6 in 3 innings, giving 1, 3 and 3 runs. Not sure Schmidt will pitch well, he has trouble not overamping himself sometimes, but Boone and the analytical team are relying on his extra experience. I hope they're right; Schmidt pitched in 3 games in relief in the 2022 post-season, and pitched poorly, though in just 2 1/3 innings total.
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Post by ill636 on Oct 9, 2024 7:12:38 GMT -5
Probably, but after not pitching last season Gil has thrown 151.2 innings so far this season. I might be wrong, but I think, rightly or wrongly, it's also because Schmidt has more experience, and is more unlikely to lose his slot and overthrow, and start walking everybody, which the team can't afford in game 3 if they want to have a bullpen in game 4. Schmidt's command isn't that great, but it's better than Gil's. I don't mind having Gil piggyback on Schmidt's start if he can make it through at least 4. Also, the long layoff between starts caused by the 5 days off is likely to throw Gil way off his command. Gil has had 4 starts this year on 7, 8 or 9 days of rest (and the 1st start off the IL in which he had 16 days of rest, but not really, as he threw a rehab start at AAA just 5 days before). Of the 4, he had his command in one of them, the start on nine days' rest, oddly enough, but in the other three, he walked 5 in 5 innings, 7 in 5 innings and 6 in 3 innings, giving 1, 3 and 3 runs. Not sure Schmidt will pitch well, he has trouble not overamping himself sometimes, but Boone and the analytical team are relying on his extra experience. I hope they're right; Schmidt pitched in 3 games in relief in the 2022 post-season, and pitched poorly, though in just 2 1/3 innings total. All true and not encouraging... We need to hope Lugo has an off night and the Yankees ponce on him in the first inning to give Schmidt breathing space. I really wish I was highly confident about tonight's game
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Post by Max on Oct 9, 2024 11:47:45 GMT -5
I might be wrong, but I think, rightly or wrongly, it's also because Schmidt has more experience, and is more unlikely to lose his slot and overthrow, and start walking everybody, which the team can't afford in game 3 if they want to have a bullpen in game 4. Schmidt's command isn't that great, but it's better than Gil's. I don't mind having Gil piggyback on Schmidt's start if he can make it through at least 4. Also, the long layoff between starts caused by the 5 days off is likely to throw Gil way off his command. Gil has had 4 starts this year on 7, 8 or 9 days of rest (and the 1st start off the IL in which he had 16 days of rest, but not really, as he threw a rehab start at AAA just 5 days before). Of the 4, he had his command in one of them, the start on nine days' rest, oddly enough, but in the other three, he walked 5 in 5 innings, 7 in 5 innings and 6 in 3 innings, giving 1, 3 and 3 runs. Not sure Schmidt will pitch well, he has trouble not overamping himself sometimes, but Boone and the analytical team are relying on his extra experience. I hope they're right; Schmidt pitched in 3 games in relief in the 2022 post-season, and pitched poorly, though in just 2 1/3 innings total. All true and not encouraging... We need to hope Lugo has an off night and the Yankees ponce on him in the first inning to give Schmidt breathing space. I really wish I was highly confident about tonight's game I would like to say that Lugo is a late bloomer or maybe pitching better than his talent suggests. But I can't say that because in my opinion, Lugo has always been a good pitcher. For what it's worth, he had a bad start and a good start vs the Yankees this season.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Oct 9, 2024 15:11:24 GMT -5
All true and not encouraging... We need to hope Lugo has an off night and the Yankees ponce on him in the first inning to give Schmidt breathing space. I really wish I was highly confident about tonight's game I would like to say that Lugo is a late bloomer or maybe pitching better than his talent suggests. But I can't say that because in my opinion, Lugo has always been a good pitcher. For what it's worth, he had a bad start and a good start vs the Yankees this season. Even the bad start wasn't all that bad, just a bit off. If the Yanks can do that to him again tonight, the bullpen has to make it stand up.
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Post by Max on Oct 10, 2024 11:28:32 GMT -5
I would like to say that Lugo is a late bloomer or maybe pitching better than his talent suggests. But I can't say that because in my opinion, Lugo has always been a good pitcher. For what it's worth, he had a bad start and a good start vs the Yankees this season. Even the bad start wasn't all that bad, just a bit off. If the Yanks can do that to him again tonight, the bullpen has to make it stand up.
To each their own, but I consider Lugo's 5.14 game ERA a bad start.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Oct 10, 2024 17:16:04 GMT -5
Even the bad start wasn't all that bad, just a bit off. If the Yanks can do that to him again tonight, the bullpen has to make it stand up.
To each their own, but I consider Lugo's 5.14 game ERA a bad start.
Yes, that's a bad ERA for an ace, but all aces have so-so games sometimes, and the Yanks didn't really knock him around; he just gave up key hits with runners in scoring position. He was somewhat better last night, but not as good as he was in the dominant start against them in September. The Yanks did just enough against him, and Holmes, Kahnle and Weaver were, in fact, outstanding and did make the one run lead stand up.
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Post by Max on Oct 10, 2024 18:01:42 GMT -5
To each their own, but I consider Lugo's 5.14 game ERA a bad start.
Yes, that's a bad ERA for an ace, but all aces have so-so games sometimes, and the Yanks didn't really knock him around; he just gave up key hits with runners in scoring position. He was somewhat better last night, but not as good as he was in the dominant start against them in September. The Yanks did just enough against him, and Holmes, Kahnle and Weaver were, in fact, outstanding and did make the one run lead stand up. To me that kind of ERA is bad for any starting pitcher. Lugo did pitch better in last night's game. Yep, he was lights out when he pitched against the Yankees in September. Yankees bullpen came through. Schmidt had a decent start. Cole had a poor start, and Rodon had a terrible start. But hey, all that aside the Yankees still have a 2 games to 1 lead.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Oct 10, 2024 18:17:00 GMT -5
Yes, that's a bad ERA for an ace, but all aces have so-so games sometimes, and the Yanks didn't really knock him around; he just gave up key hits with runners in scoring position. He was somewhat better last night, but not as good as he was in the dominant start against them in September. The Yanks did just enough against him, and Holmes, Kahnle and Weaver were, in fact, outstanding and did make the one run lead stand up. To me that kind of ERA is bad for any starting pitcher. Lugo did pitch better in last night's game. Yep, he was lights out when he pitched against the Yankees in September. Yankees bullpen came through. Schmidt had a decent start. Cole had a poor start, and Rodon had a terrible start. But hey, all that aside the Yankees still have a 2 games to 1 lead. Considering how poorly Cole and Rodon's games went, I'm thrilled they're up 2-1 with a chance to close the series out tonight. But they need better starts from both going forth. I remember they tried the same thing in 2017, and the bullpen ran out of gas in the ALCS against the Astros.
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Post by Max on Oct 10, 2024 22:08:50 GMT -5
To me that kind of ERA is bad for any starting pitcher. Lugo did pitch better in last night's game. Yep, he was lights out when he pitched against the Yankees in September. Yankees bullpen came through. Schmidt had a decent start. Cole had a poor start, and Rodon had a terrible start. But hey, all that aside the Yankees still have a 2 games to 1 lead. Considering how poorly Cole and Rodon's games went, I'm thrilled they're up 2-1 with a chance to close the series out tonight. But they need better starts from both going forth. I remember they tried the same thing in 2017, and the bullpen ran out of gas in the ALCS against the Astros. The days off should help the bullpen. Yankees schedule lately looks similar to an NBA/NHL schedule. 5 off days, then they play a game and were off the next day. Played another game, then had another day off before playing 2 straight games. Now they are off until Monday.
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Post by qwik3457bb on Oct 10, 2024 22:12:39 GMT -5
Considering how poorly Cole and Rodon's games went, I'm thrilled they're up 2-1 with a chance to close the series out tonight. But they need better starts from both going forth. I remember they tried the same thing in 2017, and the bullpen ran out of gas in the ALCS against the Astros. The days off should help the bullpen. Yankees schedule lately looks similar to an NBA/NHL schedule. 5 off days, then they play a game and were off the next day. Played another game, then had another day off before playing 2 straight games. Now they are off until Monday. Yes, they could get away with it in the ALDS, but the ALCS is back to the usual 2 games at the Stadium, travel day, 3 consecutive games, travel day, 2 games at the Stadium. So unless they can wrap up the ALCS quickly, they're going to have to find ways to give them days off in the next round, or they might burn out, as they did late in the 2017 ALCS.
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