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Post by kaybli on Apr 16, 2018 23:47:14 GMT -5
LOL. I used to think it was really a cool place though. Yes, many fly balls died in that left and center field, but on the other hand, it was great for triples and inside the park home runs. Also to drop a single in front of the deep-playing outfielders...I'd also say it was far from the worst-conceived ball yards of the day. First of all, when it was built no one could have foreseen how big a deal the HR would become in the future...There were also places like Baker Bowl, LF 341; CF 408; RCF 300; RF 280 with a 40' tall wall...The Polo Grounds, LF 279, LCF 450, CF 483, RCF 449, RF 279. No dis-respect intended for Mel Ott...but he knew how to pull the ball... (: There sure were some whacky stadiums back in the day. Including Fenway Park. What a whackjob of a ball park with those dimensions and the Green Monster. |
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Post by inger on Apr 17, 2018 8:42:42 GMT -5
I'm amazed that it took Babe Ruth to make the home run a big deal...You might have thought that some time in the seventy years or so prior some team owner might have noticed that when a player hit a home run all the runners scored and it was pretty cool to not need three more hits to get them all home...Noetsi would have loved the dead ball era, what with softly steered grounders dominating the game, bunts galore, soccer like games ending in a 1-1 tie after 26 innings...I he was the commission back then, he'd probably fined anyone that hit the baseball over the fence. "I've told you players before, each one of those baseballs costs me $0.4215! I know because I track the statistics in this league"...
Instead of taking steroids, he would have demanded all players take "their Geritol" before games...
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Post by inger on Apr 17, 2018 8:44:21 GMT -5
LOL. I used to think it was really a cool place though. Yes, many fly balls died in that left and center field, but on the other hand, it was great for triples and inside the park home runs. Also to drop a single in front of the deep-playing outfielders...I'd also say it was far from the worst-conceived ball yards of the day. First of all, when it was built no one could have foreseen how big a deal the HR would become in the future...There were also places like Baker Bowl, LF 341; CF 408; RCF 300; RF 280 with a 40' tall wall...The Polo Grounds, LF 279, LCF 450, CF 483, RCF 449, RF 279. No dis-respect intended for Mel Ott...but he knew how to pull the ball... (: There sure were some whacky stadiums back in the day. Including Fenway Park. What a whackjob of a ball park with those dimensions and the Green Monster. The dull metalic "THUMP" of that wall is hilarious, plus the fact that they never invested in a decent scoreboard and the locals think it adds "CHAHM" to the ball park... |
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Post by utahyank on Apr 17, 2018 17:33:27 GMT -5
LOL. I used to think it was really a cool place though. Yes, many fly balls died in that left and center field, but on the other hand, it was great for triples and inside the park home runs. Also to drop a single in front of the deep-playing outfielders...I'd also say it was far from the worst-conceived ball yards of the day. First of all, when it was built no one could have foreseen how big a deal the HR would become in the future...There were also places like Baker Bowl, LF 341; CF 408; RCF 300; RF 280 with a 40' tall wall...The Polo Grounds, LF 279, LCF 450, CF 483, RCF 449, RF 279. No dis-respect intended for Mel Ott...but he knew how to pull the ball... (: ...and yet, in that hard-to-play left field, in crucial games like the World Series. an aging catcher in Berra would be run out there by Stengel and do not only a adequate job, but maybe be better than the oppositions left-fielder......Yogi was probably the best athlete I have ever seen who looked like a small guy who should have a fruit stand, for a living..... |
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Post by kaybli on Apr 17, 2018 18:36:29 GMT -5
LOL. I used to think it was really a cool place though. Yes, many fly balls died in that left and center field, but on the other hand, it was great for triples and inside the park home runs. Also to drop a single in front of the deep-playing outfielders...I'd also say it was far from the worst-conceived ball yards of the day. First of all, when it was built no one could have foreseen how big a deal the HR would become in the future...There were also places like Baker Bowl, LF 341; CF 408; RCF 300; RF 280 with a 40' tall wall...The Polo Grounds, LF 279, LCF 450, CF 483, RCF 449, RF 279. No dis-respect intended for Mel Ott...but he knew how to pull the ball... (: ...and yet, in that hard-to-play left field, in crucial games like the World Series. an aging catcher in Berra would be run out there by Stengel and do not only a adequate job, but maybe be better than the oppositions left-fielder......Yogi was probably the best athlete I have ever seen who looked like a small guy who should have a fruit stand, for a living..... Yogi was something else. |
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Post by inger on Apr 17, 2018 21:15:07 GMT -5
...and yet, in that hard-to-play left field, in crucial games like the World Series. an aging catcher in Berra would be run out there by Stengel and do not only a adequate job, but maybe be better than the oppositions left-fielder......Yogi was probably the best athlete I have ever seen who looked like a small guy who should have a fruit stand, for a living..... Yogi was something else. Yogi willed himself to be successful in baseball. At 5'7" with three sets of socks on his feet and 185 pounds, I would agree. A fruit and produce stand should have been his fate. If it had, you can rest assured it would have been a terrific place of business. Yet, there he was...I'd wager to say that he didn't see too many more strikes when he was batting than Mantle did, but that didn't stop him from hitting the ball. It's said that he was the best bad-ball hitter in the history of the game. Well, I might dispute that, but only because I saw Clemente play, and he could hit them for base hits more often than Berra. Yet, Berra still had a lifetime BA of .285, which was at .294 when he was 31 years old. Not bad for a catcher. You know what else? For a catcher that swung at a ton of pitches, he didn't hit into very many double plays...His rep as a bad ball hitter was deserved, but he drew a fair share of walks. Never a LOT, but enough...He knew when to pull back and when to be aggressive. His malaprops aside, he was an extremely intelligent man, and the malaprops were more schtick than reality... |
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Post by inger on Apr 18, 2018 0:00:02 GMT -5
I forget what thread we were discussing Jackie Robinson in, so since this thread seems to be the best place to meander somewhat aimlessly...or maybe that would be the Misc. Bull thread...anyway...
I just wanted to mention a fact that most of you probably know, which is that Jackie Robinson was not the first black player in MLB history. He was the first black player to play after the so-called "color line" was drawn.
The first was likely a former slave named William White, who was a one game fill in during the 1879 season. Even now, there are historians that argue as to whether he was black or white. Then there was Moses Fleetwood Walker, who played almost an entire season in 1884. There were cities that he could not go to for fear of the lynch mobs waiting for him, and it is said the physical and emotional wear on the man was horrendous as he hit .263 in 42 games. Nonetheless, his younger brother, Welday Wilberforce Walker joined him for a part of the season.
They endured all of the taunts and jeers that Robinson endured and more, and in a less-enlightened time than 1947 the protests of existing stars as well as fans were enough to drive the black man out of baseball with a newly established rule, a ban on players of color. I'll have to study on it, but I do believe there was a black-skinned player that played during the period of the ban, but because he was not of African descent he was left alone by most. I believe he was of Central or South American descent...I suppose even the intolerant once in a while decide to be tolerant???
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Post by kaybli on Apr 18, 2018 2:23:35 GMT -5
I forget what thread we were discussing Jackie Robinson in, so since this thread seems to be the best place to meander somewhat aimlessly...or maybe that would be the Misc. Bull thread...anyway... I just wanted to mention a fact that most of you probably know, which is that Jackie Robinson was not the first black player in MLB history. He was the first black player to play after the so-called "color line" was drawn. The first was likely a former slave named William White, who was a one game fill in during the 1879 season. Even now, there are historians that argue as to whether he was black or white. Then there was Moses Fleetwood Walker, who played almost an entire season in 1884. There were cities that he could not go to for fear of the lynch mobs waiting for him, and it is said the physical and emotional wear on the man was horrendous as he hit .263 in 42 games. Nonetheless, his younger brother, Welday Wilberforce Walker joined him for a part of the season. They endured all of the taunts and jeers that Robinson endured and more, and in a less-enlightened time than 1947 the protests of existing stars as well as fans were enough to drive the black man out of baseball with a newly established rule, a ban on players of color. I'll have to study on it, but I do believe there was a black-skinned player that played during the period of the ban, but because he was not of African descent he was left alone by most. I believe he was of Central or South American descent...I suppose even the intolerant once in a while decide to be tolerant??? Thanks inger. Important to know. |
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Post by sierchio on Apr 18, 2018 4:02:32 GMT -5
I don't like the bat flips. When I was younger, a bat thrown was cause for ejection. This is a good demonstration of why it still should be. Accidents happen. Why invite them with acts that could cause injury? Why allow a player to do something that is so "in the face" of the opponent so as to be poor sportsmanship? To me, there was nothing more "professional" than hitting the ball and then politely setting the bat aside as you ran up the first base line...At least the batter here was apologetic and appeared a bit embarrassed. Maybe he'll stop flipping his bats??? Didi did a bat flip in the playoffs that hit the catcher and he apologized right away |
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Post by sierchio on Apr 18, 2018 4:09:06 GMT -5
I can't disagree with any of them points. I just like that it adds an element of emotion in the game, players get under player's skin and it creates rivalries. However, Derek Jeter is my favorite Yankee to ever play, and he played the game the way you describe so I guess I can appreciate both sides of the equation. I appreciate both styles of play as well. It all depends on the players personality. I don't mind the bat flips at all... What I do mind is the Jose Batista sitting in the batters box staring at the baseball then tossing the bat... THAT you should get beaned in the ribs for... Or at the very least a high and tight. Hit a home run... Flip the bat... Run the bases and give the fist pumps and high fives. Or just do a Judge and put your head down and run. But don't admire your fucking hit. The bat flip is emotion. The staring is just ignorant in my mind. |
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Post by sierchio on Apr 18, 2018 4:16:08 GMT -5
Float like a buffalo, sting like a gnat... That statement reminds me of the kid that tried to fight me at my job. Comes up to me like a buffalo and as soon as I put my hands up in a fighting stance he nearly fell backwards trying to back away. |
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Post by sierchio on Apr 18, 2018 4:16:40 GMT -5
I heard there was a similar incident with the Yankees and sux?
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Post by kaybli on Apr 22, 2018 1:37:57 GMT -5
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Post by chiyankee on Apr 22, 2018 8:59:07 GMT -5
That's baseball Susan!!! Manaea no hits the team that's been almost unbeatable in April, hopefully that starts the Sox on a slide. |
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Post by cbpinstripes on Apr 22, 2018 10:54:05 GMT -5
I can't disagree with any of them points. I just like that it adds an element of emotion in the game, players get under player's skin and it creates rivalries. However, Derek Jeter is my favorite Yankee to ever play, and he played the game the way you describe so I guess I can appreciate both sides of the equation. I appreciate both styles of play as well. It all depends on the players personality. I don't mind the bat flips at all... What I do mind is the Jose Batista sitting in the batters box staring at the baseball then tossing the bat... THAT you should get beaned in the ribs for... Or at the very least a high and tight. Hit a home run... Flip the bat... Run the bases and give the fist pumps and high fives. Or just do a Judge and put your head down and run. But don't admire your fucking hit. The bat flip is emotion. The staring is just ignorant in my mind. It's funny, because I'm a big hockey fan too, so when Odor punched him in the face I was really surprised he got suspended. I'm used to seeing guys get into fights like that and it just didn't process to me that it was against the rules haha. |
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