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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 9:11:48 GMT -5
I’d trade Sanchez for Realmuto in a heartbeat, but the Marlins will want a lot more than that.
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 31, 2018 11:36:26 GMT -5
For what it's worth -- and it may be worth nothing -- the Las Vegas gambling odds on where Harper and Machado will sign have both of them heavily favored to go to the Phillies. Harper is even money, Machado is 3/2. Yanks are listed as 8/1 for Harper and 3/1 for Machado.
The Phillies have a lucrative broadcast contract with Comcast. Their payroll in 2019 as things stand with no additions would be under $100 million. One article pointed out that they could pay Machado and Harper each $50 million a year and still be under the luxury tax cap. Neither they nor anyone else will be shelling out bucks like that, but the point is they are flush with cash and have been indicating they are ready to spend. I don't think even that would make them a playoff cinch, by any means.
I have trouble believing that would happen in any event. When is the last time a team signed two such high-profile free agents in the same season? The Yanks in 2009 with CC and Tex? Who else?
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 31, 2018 12:18:22 GMT -5
For what it's worth -- and it may be worth nothing -- the Las Vegas gambling odds on where Harper and Machado will sign have both of them heavily favored to go to the Phillies. Harper is even money, Machado is 3/2. Yanks are listed as 8/1 for Harper and 3/1 for Machado. The Phillies have a lucrative broadcast contract with Comcast. Their payroll in 2019 as things stand with no additions would be under $100 million. One article pointed out that they could pay Machado and Harper each $50 million a year and still be under the luxury tax cap. Neither they nor anyone else will be shelling out bucks like that, but the point is they are flush with cash and have been indicating they are ready to spend. I don't think even that would make them a playoff cinch, by any means. I have trouble believing that would happen in any event. When is the last time a team signed two such high-profile free agents in the same season? The Yanks in 2009 with CC and Tex? Who else? I don't believe Harper and Machado will both sign with the Phillies either. How can teams, like the Yankees survive when teams like the Phillies are signing all the big free agents?
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 31, 2018 12:23:01 GMT -5
Injured reliever Trevor Rosenthal is signing with the Nats.
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Post by greatfatness on Oct 31, 2018 12:58:37 GMT -5
For what it's worth -- and it may be worth nothing -- the Las Vegas gambling odds on where Harper and Machado will sign have both of them heavily favored to go to the Phillies. Harper is even money, Machado is 3/2. Yanks are listed as 8/1 for Harper and 3/1 for Machado. The Phillies have a lucrative broadcast contract with Comcast. Their payroll in 2019 as things stand with no additions would be under $100 million. One article pointed out that they could pay Machado and Harper each $50 million a year and still be under the luxury tax cap. Neither they nor anyone else will be shelling out bucks like that, but the point is they are flush with cash and have been indicating they are ready to spend. I don't think even that would make them a playoff cinch, by any means. I have trouble believing that would happen in any event. When is the last time a team signed two such high-profile free agents in the same season? The Yanks in 2009 with CC and Tex? Who else? I don't believe Harper and Machado will both sign with the Phillies either. How can teams, like the Yankees survive when teams like the Phillies are signing all the big free agents? Every team in baseball has the revenue to sign whoever they want to. Whether they think it makes business sense to spend that money is another story. The Yankees and a few others probably do still have a meaningful revenue advantage but the gulf isn’t as wide as it once was. Lots of teams have these regional tv deals now that pump non-ticket revenue into their P&L.
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Post by pippsheadache on Oct 31, 2018 13:01:52 GMT -5
Injured reliever Trevor Rosenthal is signing with the Nats. The Nats keep trying. Seems like they have been The Next Big Thing for five years at least. Rosenthal certainly had his moments in the past. Man it must be frustrating being a Nationals fan.
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Post by domeplease on Oct 31, 2018 13:36:38 GMT -5
For what it's worth -- and it may be worth nothing -- the Las Vegas gambling odds on where Harper and Machado will sign have both of them heavily favored to go to the Phillies. Harper is even money, Machado is 3/2. Yanks are listed as 8/1 for Harper and 3/1 for Machado. The Phillies have a lucrative broadcast contract with Comcast. Their payroll in 2019 as things stand with no additions would be under $100 million. One article pointed out that they could pay Machado and Harper each $50 million a year and still be under the luxury tax cap. Neither they nor anyone else will be shelling out bucks like that, but the point is they are flush with cash and have been indicating they are ready to spend. I don't think even that would make them a playoff cinch, by any means. I have trouble believing that would happen in any event. When is the last time a team signed two such high-profile free agents in the same season? The Yanks in 2009 with CC and Tex? Who else? I don't believe Harper and Machado will both sign with the Phillies either. How can teams, like the Yankees survive when teams like the Phillies are signing all the big free agents? PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE...let the Phillies SIGN BOTH. PLEASE!!!
AND: 10-31-18: www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/mets-make-strangest-gm-hire-in-baseball-history-with-brodie-van-wagenen/ar-BBP8ntv?ocid=U147DHP Brilliant OUT-OF-THE-BOX Thinking/Move.
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Post by chiyankee on Oct 31, 2018 13:36:53 GMT -5
Injured reliever Trevor Rosenthal is signing with the Nats. The Nats keep trying. Seems like they have been The Next Big Thing for five years at least. Rosenthal certainly had his moments in the past. Man it must be frustrating being a Nationals fan. Seems like they've been trying to find a closer for years.
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Post by mrradix on Nov 1, 2018 21:58:18 GMT -5
For what it's worth -- and it may be worth nothing -- the Las Vegas gambling odds on where Harper and Machado will sign have both of them heavily favored to go to the Phillies. Harper is even money, Machado is 3/2. Yanks are listed as 8/1 for Harper and 3/1 for Machado. The Phillies have a lucrative broadcast contract with Comcast. Their payroll in 2019 as things stand with no additions would be under $100 million. One article pointed out that they could pay Machado and Harper each $50 million a year and still be under the luxury tax cap. Neither they nor anyone else will be shelling out bucks like that, but the point is they are flush with cash and have been indicating they are ready to spend. I don't think even that would make them a playoff cinch, by any means. I have trouble believing that would happen in any event. When is the last time a team signed two such high-profile free agents in the same season? The Yanks in 2009 with CC and Tex? Who else? I don't believe Harper and Machado will both sign with the Phillies either. How can teams, like the Yankees survive when teams like the Phillies are signing all the big free agents? Machado and the Yankees seems destined....Manny could be one of the greatest third basemen in NY history. But he IS a punk and that will figure into things. I don't think it will deter the Yankees. I'm not a big fan of the move, in any case. I like the idea of signing Harper and Moustakas, instead, 'cuz LH power in Yankee Stadium is my jam. Put Harper at 1B, move Andujar to LF, and the Yankees turn into a better team, more balanced and with solid 3B defense. And, yes, I'm assuming Andujar can play left and that his howitzer of an arm will be an even better tool there than it is at 3B. Add Corbin to the mix, maybe ship Frazier and others off for yet another good starter, maybe re-sign Happ, and.....blah blah. But if the Yankees DO sign Manny, they'd need, IMHO, to trade Andujar and get solid LH bats for LF and 1B.
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Post by inger on Nov 2, 2018 0:11:26 GMT -5
I don't believe Harper and Machado will both sign with the Phillies either. How can teams, like the Yankees survive when teams like the Phillies are signing all the big free agents? Machado and the Yankees seems destined....Manny could be one of the greatest third basemen in NY history. But he IS a punk and that will figure into things. I don't think it will deter the Yankees. I'm not a big fan of the move, in any case. I like the idea of signing Harper and Moustakas, instead, 'cuz LH power in Yankee Stadium is my jam. Put Harper at 1B, move Andujar to LF, and the Yankees turn into a better team, more balanced and with solid 3B defense. And, yes, I'm assuming Andujar can play left and that his howitzer of an arm will be an even better tool there than it is at 3B. Add Corbin to the mix, maybe ship Frazier and others off for yet another good starter, maybe re-sign Happ, and.....blah blah. But if the Yankees DO sign Manny, they'd need, IMHO, to trade Andujar and get solid LH bats for LF and 1B. I'm hoping you're wrong about Machado. When Cano started showing that he was a non-hustling punk, he was allowed to leave in free-agency. Jesus Montero sort of punked his way out of town, as did Jose Mateo...In the past being a punk didn't stop us from nabbing Canseco (for the short term), nor Gary Sheffield, but that's been a while back. Then again, we do still have Aroldis Chapman...It's a fine line, and perhaps with Chapman they have more information about him than we do to decide how out of character that one single act was... One more Manny comment, and then I'll move on. How good will he be once he's signed the mega contract and is no longer motivated to perform for his next one???
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Post by greatfatness on Nov 2, 2018 4:36:58 GMT -5
Machado and the Yankees seems destined....Manny could be one of the greatest third basemen in NY history. But he IS a punk and that will figure into things. I don't think it will deter the Yankees. I'm not a big fan of the move, in any case. I like the idea of signing Harper and Moustakas, instead, 'cuz LH power in Yankee Stadium is my jam. Put Harper at 1B, move Andujar to LF, and the Yankees turn into a better team, more balanced and with solid 3B defense. And, yes, I'm assuming Andujar can play left and that his howitzer of an arm will be an even better tool there than it is at 3B. Add Corbin to the mix, maybe ship Frazier and others off for yet another good starter, maybe re-sign Happ, and.....blah blah. But if the Yankees DO sign Manny, they'd need, IMHO, to trade Andujar and get solid LH bats for LF and 1B. I'm hoping you're wrong about Machado. When Cano started showing that he was a non-hustling punk, he was allowed to leave in free-agency. Jesus Montero sort of punked his way out of town, as did Jose Mateo...In the past being a punk didn't stop us from nabbing Canseco (for the short term), nor Gary Sheffield, but that's been a while back. Then again, we do still have Aroldis Chapman...It's a fine line, and perhaps with Chapman they have more information about him than we do to decide how out of character that one single act was... One more Manny comment, and then I'll move on. How good will he be once he's signed the mega contract and is no longer motivated to perform for his next one??? The Yankees offered $175,000,000 to Cano. I don’t think they ran him out of town because they didn’t think he hustled. They just got outpriced by a team that was more desperate for his bat.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 5:53:29 GMT -5
Let’s not get carried away by this non hustle stuff. Machado plays over 150 games about every season. Guys who play with him rave about him as a teammate. He will have a come to a Jesus conversation with both Hal and Cash prior to his signing, if in fact he does sign. Funny nobody talks about Sanchez’s lazy habits blocking pitches being a deal breaker and he hit .185 and led the universe in passed balls in 661 innings plus pitchers getting on the hook for wild pitches. Didi is probably a non factor for 2019 and the alternatives people talk about are frankly a joke. The Yankees can’t afford to lose Didis offensive numbers or his defense if they are serious about winning a championship next season. Machado is the only guy on the market that can fill in the blanks. When and if he comes back in 2020, Didi will be 30 and a season removed from 2018. If he is right, Manny can slide over to third, no big deal. Miggy can play left. Machado is 26 and an established star. One of the 7-8 best players in the game. People worried about shit like not running out a ball or a few questionable base running incidents need to get a grip. Read him the expectations, put clauses in his contract and get it done. If he doesn’t like it, fine. Let him go to the Phillies with Harper, who by the way has issues of his own. Reggie Jacksonn had issues, so did O’neil, Gossage, Mantle and Ruth. Anyone care to count the rings between all of those “malcontents “.
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Post by inger on Nov 2, 2018 6:36:31 GMT -5
I'm hoping you're wrong about Machado. When Cano started showing that he was a non-hustling punk, he was allowed to leave in free-agency. Jesus Montero sort of punked his way out of town, as did Jose Mateo...In the past being a punk didn't stop us from nabbing Canseco (for the short term), nor Gary Sheffield, but that's been a while back. Then again, we do still have Aroldis Chapman...It's a fine line, and perhaps with Chapman they have more information about him than we do to decide how out of character that one single act was... One more Manny comment, and then I'll move on. How good will he be once he's signed the mega contract and is no longer motivated to perform for his next one??? The Yankees offered $175,000,000 to Cano. I don’t think they ran him out of town because they didn’t think he hustled. They just got outpriced by a team that was more desperate for his bat. They knew he wasn’t taking that deal...
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Post by greatfatness on Nov 2, 2018 7:50:08 GMT -5
The Yankees offered $175,000,000 to Cano. I don’t think they ran him out of town because they didn’t think he hustled. They just got outpriced by a team that was more desperate for his bat. They knew he wasn’t taking that deal... That story doesn’t make sense. That’s a pretty big gamble to take just for show. I don’t know of anyone in business (who hasn’t already failed) that takes risks like that. The narrative that they ran Cano out of town because he didn’t hustle is revisionist history. That’s just not what happened. They wanted him back at a price, offered him a big contract and got outbid and stayed financially disciplined.
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Post by greatfatness on Nov 2, 2018 7:54:55 GMT -5
Let’s not get carried away by this non hustle stuff. Machado plays over 150 games about every season. Guys who play with him rave about him as a teammate. He will have a come to a Jesus conversation with both Hal and Cash prior to his signing, if in fact he does sign. Funny nobody talks about Sanchez’s lazy habits blocking pitches being a deal breaker and he hit .185 and led the universe in passed balls in 661 innings plus pitchers getting on the hook for wild pitches. Didi is probably a non factor for 2019 and the alternatives people talk about are frankly a joke. The Yankees can’t afford to lose Didis offensive numbers or his defense if they are serious about winning a championship next season. Machado is the only guy on the market that can fill in the blanks. When and if he comes back in 2020, Didi will be 30 and a season removed from 2018. If he is right, Manny can slide over to third, no big deal. Miggy can play left. Machado is 26 and an established star. One of the 7-8 best players in the game. People worried about shit like not running out a ball or a few questionable base running incidents need to get a grip. Read him the expectations, put clauses in his contract and get it done. If he doesn’t like it, fine. Let him go to the Phillies with Harper, who by the way has issues of his own. Reggie Jacksonn had issues, so did O’neil, Gossage, Mantle and Ruth. Anyone care to count the rings between all of those “malcontents “. Putting aside the fans perspective (which really isn’t relevant at all to the people making this decision), I tend to agree in the sense that I don’t think Hal and Cashman care about this for a player who produces. They’ve acquired and retained players with far bigger character issues than Machado, so long as they produce on the field. The only part I think they do care about is whether he declines to hustle out routine ground balls from the right side of the plate or the left. That’s the part about Machado I do think they care about. The lineup is very right handed and it has hurt them at times. Not sure that’s enough to make them pass on him.
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