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Post by anthonyd46 on Jan 2, 2019 23:26:39 GMT -5
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jan 2, 2019 23:31:11 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Jan 2, 2019 23:32:08 GMT -5
I liked it better when no one knew about the vote until they stopped sliding the beads on the abacus...
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Post by kaybli on Jan 3, 2019 1:45:33 GMT -5
I'd be quite happy for Moose if he made it too along with Mariano.
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Post by inger on Jan 3, 2019 3:27:38 GMT -5
I'd be quite happy for Moose if he made it too along with Mariano. I’d be happier for MO if some SCHMO hadn’t purposely spoiled his ballot along the way... |
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Post by kaybli on Jan 3, 2019 3:34:41 GMT -5
I'd be quite happy for Moose if he made it too along with Mariano. I’d be happier for MO if some SCHMO hadn’t purposely spoiled his ballot along the way... I agree. That dude who already said he won't vote for Mo, spoiling his chances at 100 percent, is a giant douchebag. |
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Post by kaybli on Jan 3, 2019 3:39:19 GMT -5
Ok, so the guy will not submit a ballot technically allowing Mo to still go in unanimously.
Hall of Fame Voter Decides Not to Submit Ballot Instead of Voting Against Mariano Rivera
Bill Ballou of the Telegram & Gazette has decided not to submit a Hall of Fame ballot, which still allows all-time saves leader Mariano Rivera to possibly earn a unanimous election to Cooperstown. The decision to abstain from the vote does not spoil Rivera's chances of unanimity. A blank ballot submitted would ruin his chances.
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Post by inger on Jan 3, 2019 3:41:36 GMT -5
You know he’s the long lost cousin of Cat Ballou, right?...
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Post by kaybli on Jan 3, 2019 3:42:07 GMT -5
I would bet on someone not voting for Mo just to get publicity.
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Post by michcusejoe5 on Jan 3, 2019 8:47:40 GMT -5
Bonds
Clemens
Edgar
Mussina
Schilling
Halladay
Walker
Mariano
Manny
Rolen
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 3, 2019 12:23:17 GMT -5
Mo
Mussina
Bonds
Clemens
Halladay
McGriff
Edgar
Ramirez
Schilling
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Post by michcusejoe5 on Jan 3, 2019 12:29:22 GMT -5
Mo Mussina Bonds Clemens Halladay McGriff Edgar Ramirez Schilling Ive been on the fence about McGriff and talked myself into him earlier in the voting process and then out of him lately when all considered. I couldnt put him ahead of Rolen or Helton, who I think were better players on the whole even though McGriff is great and probably deserving. I know hes in his last year on the ballot so I considered, should he be put on because of that and wait to include a Rolen or Helton bc they have many more years left but then thought that if everyone took that approach (taking to logical extreme) one of those guys would potentially fall below the threshold and fall off. |
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Post by inger on Jan 3, 2019 13:56:26 GMT -5
My ballot would read :
Mo
Moose
Edgar
Halladay
And I hesitated a bit on Mussina. I haven’t gotten past the PEDs issue...I tried, but then I rembered what it felt like to lose to cheaters...
Maybe if they had a “dog house” area for them, with dim lights and and a skanky odor, I could move myself to appreciate their “accomplishments”...
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 3, 2019 13:56:56 GMT -5
Mo Mussina Bonds Clemens Halladay McGriff Edgar Ramirez Schilling Ive been on the fence about McGriff and talked myself into him earlier in the voting process and then out of him lately when all considered. I couldnt put him ahead of Rolen or Helton, who I think were better players on the whole even though McGriff is great and probably deserving. I know hes in his last year on the ballot so I considered, should he be put on because of that and wait to include a Rolen or Helton bc they have many more years left but then thought that if everyone took that approach (taking to logical extreme) one of those guys would potentially fall below the threshold and fall off. I was puzzled by the lack of support for McGriff, since I always though he could mash, maybe I need to take a second look at his numbers? |
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Post by michcusejoe5 on Jan 3, 2019 15:32:23 GMT -5
Ive been on the fence about McGriff and talked myself into him earlier in the voting process and then out of him lately when all considered. I couldnt put him ahead of Rolen or Helton, who I think were better players on the whole even though McGriff is great and probably deserving. I know hes in his last year on the ballot so I considered, should he be put on because of that and wait to include a Rolen or Helton bc they have many more years left but then thought that if everyone took that approach (taking to logical extreme) one of those guys would potentially fall below the threshold and fall off. I was puzzled by the lack of support for McGriff, since I always though he could mash, maybe I need to take a second look at his numbers? Yea I think hes probably deserving and should have gotten more support much earlier (before the ballot got log-jammed). He would probably be my 11th guy. The one I really struggle with is Sosa. As someone who is okay with letting the PED guys in how is he not one of them? His five year stretch from 1998 to 2002 was basically Koufaxesque (from an offensive standpoint) while not quite Bondsian. But then you have Sheffield and Andruw Jones who were pretty comparable too in terms of WAR and when you consider the balance of their careers vs. just an uber-dominant peak. |
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