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Post by uehara1 on Jan 13, 2019 9:45:57 GMT -5
I think the assumption to be reasonable, GF... I’d hope for a .285/.350/400 sort of performance... I think that's probably pretty close- maybe drop the OBP by 10 points or so- his walks have gone down in recent years for reasons that are not clear. As for Great Fatness' point, I note that the Yanks PR has been pushing the exit velocities on DJ. Maybe their analytics people see something there that has been holding him back- much like you speculated happened with Didi. I don't see a power surge like Didi had- but maybe more liners instead of grounders? |
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 13, 2019 10:28:16 GMT -5
I would think that DJ would be batting at the bottom of the Yankee lineup, so hopefully that OBP is closer to .350 than .310, so he's on base more for the top hitters following him. Anyway, I'm sure Yankee pitchers will appreciate the defense he brings at 2B.
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Post by goodyear on Jan 13, 2019 14:33:45 GMT -5
How is his obp going to be .350 unless he hits .340. He doesn't walk and never has. People are trying to make this look like a justification for not signing Machado. I'm not in favor of giving anyone to a 10 year deal. At the same time I'm not partial to overpaying average players to sit on the bench. Unless this was part of a bigger overall plan this looks like a really bad signing.
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Post by inger on Jan 13, 2019 15:06:47 GMT -5
How is his obp going to be .350 unless he hits .340. He doesn't walk and never has. People are trying to make this look like a justification for not signing Machado. I'm not in favor of giving anyone to a 10 year deal. At the same time I'm not partial to overpaying average players to sit on the bench. Unless this was part of a bigger overall plan this looks like a really bad signing. His career OBP is .350. He walks fairly close to the MLB average, perhaps a bit less. The year he hit .348, his OBP was over .410... Is he a superstar? No...can he play the game? Yes...Wouod he have been my choice? Probably not, but then again I’m not privy to what other players are asking for, nor to any additional plans the team has... I believe defense has become under valued. This guy provides tremendous defense. Though he hasn’t filled in at SS in the past four or five years, I wouldn’t be afraid to play him there... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 16:42:47 GMT -5
He became a defensive wizard at second base and has only played other positions sparingly. If the plan is to insert him at second and play Torres at short then I sort of get it. That would leave Tulu out, or set him up to play first in the probable event that Bird stays grounded and Voit reverts back to being Voit. Hence Tulu would be playing a position he’s hardly ever played. All of this cluster fuck to save money, which they have in spades.
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Post by goodyear on Jan 13, 2019 20:39:16 GMT -5
No question he is a very good second baseman defensively. If we needed a second baseman it would have made some sense but they already have a set infield. I dont see them shuffling Torres to ss when they already have a better ss. I don't see them sitting Torres so DJ can play. Are they going to sit Andujar? The whole thing makes 0 sense. They could have just brought up Wade as the utility guy. As much as I wouldn't agree to pay Machado 300M I really don't see the wisdom of paying a guy who had 1 great year and a bunch of lousy ones 23M when they don't even need him.
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Post by inger on Jan 13, 2019 21:09:14 GMT -5
No question he is a very good second baseman defensively. If we needed a second baseman it would have made some sense but they already have a set infield. I dont see them shuffling Torres to ss when they already have a better ss. I don't see them sitting Torres so DJ can play. Are they going to sit Andujar? The whole thing makes 0 sense. They could have just brought up Wade as the utility guy. As much as I wouldn't agree to pay Machado 300M I really don't see the wisdom of paying a guy who had 1 great year and a bunch of lousy ones 23M when they don't even need him. I think the question is...DO they have a better SS? We’re unsure of the status of Tulo... |
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Post by inger on Jan 13, 2019 21:54:01 GMT -5
I’ve been looking at the ball parks. Coors vs. YS a bit. It’s quite interesting to see that the OF in Colorado is huge. The park seems to be extremely conducive to singles, doubles, and triples, but only fairly so to HR. Of course, it’s also hypothesized that pitcher’s breaking balls break less and it’s harder to sink a ball or keep it low when pitching.
YS typically hurts BA, doubles, and triple, while boosting HR, especially HR to RF and RCF.
When DJ hits the ball hard he tends to hit line drives. From what I saw on spray chart from DJ overlaying both parks, in 2017 he hit 11 line drives that would have cleared the RF or RCF fence in Yankee Stadium that did not clear the wall in Coors.
In 2018 he hit 17 doubles that would have cleared the fence in YS.
There’s Still much more to consider, like why he hit a hard line drive (ball didn’t break much, etc). We also need to consider the altitude, but having played golf in Colorado before, I would easily surmise that a line drive would gain less distance than a fly ball.
Then we must consider that YS is some 20-25 ft. closer down the lines than Coors and 8-10 feet closer in both power alleys than Coors, though CF is a bit farther in some areas. DJ does have a strong RF line drive tendency, the shortest field in YS.
What does all this mean? Is LaMahieu going to hit 25 HR for the Yankees? I doubt it, but I guess we’re going to find out. He hits a lot of grounders, too. It might behoove him to join the launch-angle fanatics to reach those fences. As far as hitting .300 goes, the Yankees seldom have batting title contenders. Looking at the park factors, it’s easy to see why, and makes you want to respect those that do contend even more than ever...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 3:25:15 GMT -5
We can bend this deal and the curious signing of Tulu all we want, but the fact remains that the Yankees stubbornly refuse to pay a top ranked player on both sides of the ball in his 27-33 old range, but instead sign a 34 year old broken down guy who hasn’t been injury free since 2012 and another guy who has had exactly one season with a wRC+ of over 100. This despite having more financial resources than any team in baseball and a salary to revenue ratio near the bottom if not last compared to any other team. If that isn’t a blatant case of penny pinching, what is?
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Post by kaybli on Jan 14, 2019 3:35:48 GMT -5
We can bend this deal and the curious signing of Tulu all we want, but the fact remains that the Yankees stubbornly refuse to pay a top ranked player on both sides of the ball in his 27-33 old range, but instead sign a 34 year old broken down guy who hasn’t been injury free since 2012 and another guy who has had exactly one seaso with a wRC+ of over 100. This despite having more financial resources than any team in baseball and a salary to revenue ratio near the bottom if not last compared to any other team. If that isn’t a blatant case of penny pinching, what is? I'm sorry, I have to agree with Chuck. LeMahieu and Tulo just don't do the team's championship goals justice. At least try to make a decent offer to Machado or Harper. I'm very disappointed in how things are looking right now. |
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Post by michcusejoe5 on Jan 14, 2019 9:01:34 GMT -5
We can bend this deal and the curious signing of Tulu all we want, but the fact remains that the Yankees stubbornly refuse to pay a top ranked player on both sides of the ball in his 27-33 old range, but instead sign a 34 year old broken down guy who hasn’t been injury free since 2012 and another guy who has had exactly one seaso with a wRC+ of over 100. This despite having more financial resources than any team in baseball and a salary to revenue ratio near the bottom if not last compared to any other team. If that isn’t a blatant case of penny pinching, what is? I'm sorry, I have to agree with Chuck. LeMahieu and Tulo just don't do the team's championship goals justice. At least try to make a decent offer to Machado or Harper. I'm very disappointed in how things are looking right now. I greatly prefer Harper to Machado but I tend to agree with the general sentiment. It had seemed for a long time that they were structuring the roster and the payroll precisely for this offseason. If they dont make the big splash what exactly was the point? |
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Post by chiyankee on Jan 14, 2019 9:44:17 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I have to agree with Chuck. LeMahieu and Tulo just don't do the team's championship goals justice. At least try to make a decent offer to Machado or Harper. I'm very disappointed in how things are looking right now. I greatly prefer Harper to Machado but I tend to agree with the general sentiment. It had seemed for a long time that they were structuring the roster and the payroll precisely for this offseason. If they dont make the big splash what exactly was the point? Big $$$ savings for the organization, maybe that's what Hal really cares about? |
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Post by inger on Jan 14, 2019 10:03:00 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I have to agree with Chuck. LeMahieu and Tulo just don't do the team's championship goals justice. At least try to make a decent offer to Machado or Harper. I'm very disappointed in how things are looking right now. I greatly prefer Harper to Machado but I tend to agree with the general sentiment. It had seemed for a long time that they were structuring the roster and the payroll precisely for this offseason. If they dont make the big splash what exactly was the point? 2026. It has to be that free agent class of 2026 that they're ramping up for... |
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Post by maizeyanks on Jan 14, 2019 12:03:00 GMT -5
Not sure if already posted but didn't realize LeMahieu was THIS good defensively. Only Simmons, Lindor, Semien, and Chapman were ahead of DJ defensively per fangraphs in 2018. fangraphsYanks analytics staff may see something that can improve his offense as well, he has some good contact and opposite field rates. I am so ready for some baseball. |
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Post by NewYawka on Jan 14, 2019 13:08:54 GMT -5
The Yanks did their due diligence and, I'm sure, if Machado were willing to sign a 4 year deal, they would have jumped at it. But he is waiting it out for his 10-year deal. Those are the deals fans love in the first few and kill the GM in the later years. I don't blame Cashman for not wanting to take on yet another major contract for a guy who may end up being only a small upgrade over their current young 3B.
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