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Post by noetsi on Jun 7, 2019 20:07:11 GMT -5
Good choice, since he’ll eventually join Ellsbury on the 600 day disabled list any way...Admite the comeback he made, and the work he put into it... but reality bites... I think they both are on the permanent ineligible list. |
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Post by noetsi on Jun 7, 2019 20:08:23 GMT -5
Personally I think Cashman's history of obtaining elite players in the season is not awesome. He will take a salary dump type deal but not trade real talent for them. When is the last time he traded an elite prospect for anyone? Given the Yankee salary to revenue ratio I think he should have gotten Keuchel - unless he is not serious about pursuing a WS. Which he might not be - money is a good thing. Oh yea Cashman's trade history is terrible. He's only acquired Didi Gregorius, Domingo German, Aaron Hicks, Chad Green, Gleyber Torres, Clint Frazier, Tommy Kahnle, Zack Britton, J.A. Happ, Luke Voit, Gio Urshela, James Paxton, and Giancarlo Stanton via trade.
I agree with you on Keuchel.
I said during the season not off season and giving up real prospects. He rarely trades for elite talent in the middle of the season. Chad Green is awful  |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 7, 2019 20:09:00 GMT -5
You can bet he's looking. Just because he didn't meet Keuchel's price doesn't mean there isn't something in the works. Personally I think Cashman's history of obtaining elite players in the season is not awesome. He will take a salary dump type deal but not trade real talent for them. When is the last time he traded an elite prospect for anyone? Given the Yankee salary to revenue ratio I think he should have gotten Keuchel - unless he is not serious about pursuing a WS. Which he might not be - money is a good thing. Yeah, if Cashman was any good the Yankees would be in first place. Wait a minute. Were you opposed to trading JR Murphy for Didi Gregorius? How about getting Aroldis Chapman and Gleyber Torres for -- hey, Aroldis Chapman? Remember trading CJ Henry for Bobby Abreu? Do you wish the Yankees had held on to Henry? Then there was Ricky Ledee for David Justice. Outright theft. Kerry Wood for somebody noone can remember. Roger Clemens for David Wells. Nick Swisher for whoever. Just off the top of my head. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 7, 2019 20:13:21 GMT -5
Oh yea Cashman's trade history is terrible. He's only acquired Didi Gregorius, Domingo German, Aaron Hicks, Chad Green, Gleyber Torres, Clint Frazier, Tommy Kahnle, Zack Britton, J.A. Happ, Luke Voit, Gio Urshela, James Paxton, and Giancarlo Stanton via trade.
I agree with you on Keuchel.
I said during the season not off season and giving up real prospects. He rarely trades for elite talent in the middle of the season. Chad Green is awful Why is during the season better than off season? That's a strange standard. Plus a lot of the guys Kaybli and I named were mid-season pickups. Maybe you thought Voit wasn't a very good acquisition last year. I think you make a lot of statements just to get a reaction. |
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Post by chiyankee on Jun 7, 2019 20:13:32 GMT -5
Personally I think Cashman's history of obtaining elite players in the season is not awesome. He will take a salary dump type deal but not trade real talent for them. When is the last time he traded an elite prospect for anyone? Given the Yankee salary to revenue ratio I think he should have gotten Keuchel - unless he is not serious about pursuing a WS. Which he might not be - money is a good thing. Yeah, if Cashman was any good the Yankees would be in first place. Wait a minute. Were you opposed to trading JR Murphy for Didi Gregorius? How about getting Aroldis Chapman and Gleyber Torres for -- hey, Aroldis Chapman? Remember trading CJ Henry for Bobby Abreu? Do you wish the Yankees had held on to Henry? Then there was Ricky Ledee for David Justice. Outright theft. Kerry Wood for somebody noone can remember. Roger Clemens for David Wells. Nick Swisher for whoever. Just off the top of my head. McCutchen & Happ last season. The trade with the White Sox a couple years ago that brought back Robertson and Kahnle, plus Frazier. |
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Post by kaybli on Jun 7, 2019 20:14:14 GMT -5
Oh yea Cashman's trade history is terrible. He's only acquired Didi Gregorius, Domingo German, Aaron Hicks, Chad Green, Gleyber Torres, Clint Frazier, Tommy Kahnle, Zack Britton, J.A. Happ, Luke Voit, Gio Urshela, James Paxton, and Giancarlo Stanton via trade.
I agree with you on Keuchel.
I said during the season not off season and giving up real prospects. He rarely trades for elite talent in the middle of the season. Chad Green is awful Why would you want to trade real prospects? You want to trade Judge or Torres when they were prospects? Going back, whenever they contend I can remember Cashman trying to trade to improve the team. If you think they're going to pickup a Mike Trout midseason you are dreaming. That type of stuff almost never happens. |
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Post by rizzuto on Jun 7, 2019 20:15:24 GMT -5
Morales hits into a DP. Probably no other player in baseball would have been doubled up on that play. We should have just kept Tyler Wade as a Swiss Army knife and speed off the bench. |
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Post by noetsi on Jun 7, 2019 20:17:16 GMT -5
offense just not here tonight.
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 7, 2019 20:17:42 GMT -5
Noetsi operates at a disadvantage. He doesn't know anything about baseball.
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Post by chiyankee on Jun 7, 2019 20:17:59 GMT -5
Yankee pitching just giving up too many long flyballs on this road trip, as Lindor just misses hitting one out.
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Post by noetsi on Jun 7, 2019 20:18:17 GMT -5
I said during the season not off season and giving up real prospects. He rarely trades for elite talent in the middle of the season. Chad Green is awful Why is during the season better than off season? That's a strange standard. Plus a lot of the guys Kaybli and I named were mid-season pickups. Maybe you thought Voit wasn't a very good acquisition last year. I think you make a lot of statements just to get a reaction. I think we have made very few trades to get elite established players in the regular season. We will have to disagree on this point. |
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Post by noetsi on Jun 7, 2019 20:18:50 GMT -5
Noetsi operates at a disadvantage. He doesn't know anything about baseball. Or anything else for that matter |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 7, 2019 20:20:11 GMT -5
Morales hits into a DP. Probably no other player in baseball would have been doubled up on that play. We should have just kept Tyler Wade as a Swiss Army knife and speed off the bench. I am baffled by the attachment to Morales. He must have compromising photographs of Randy Levine. |
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Post by noetsi on Jun 7, 2019 20:21:46 GMT -5
We would have to have someone good enough to do that from our minors...which is not very likely. Severino, Montgomery, German...the Yankees have had plenty of talented pitchers come up from the minors. I don't agree that its established Montgomery and German are great pitchers yet and I remain unconvinced Severino will overcome the attention disorder that inflicts him. But I was talking about pitchers in our minor leagues now. If we had any we would already brought them up given our pitching injuries this year. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 7, 2019 20:22:09 GMT -5
Noetsi operates at a disadvantage. He doesn't know anything about baseball. Or anything else for that matter Didn't mean to be too rough on you Noetsi. You're a nice man. Just happened to push my button on a bad night for the Yankees. |
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