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Post by noetsi on Jun 7, 2019 21:25:05 GMT -5
I stand corrected. I still don't think cashman will trade for good pitchers. I will hopefully be wrong. Well I have to thank you, noetsi. In looking back through all the years of midseason trades on Baseball Reference during the Cashman era, I forgot to get mad at tonight's loss! A nice diversion! [img alt="  " class="smile" src="//storage.proboards.com/6828121/images/udcwFqPimnXDtjoTmoVL.gif"] I thought Sori had come up through our system. Interesting we got him in a trade. Wish I could forget a loss that easy  |
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Post by kaybli on Jun 7, 2019 21:31:40 GMT -5
Well I have to thank you, noetsi. In looking back through all the years of midseason trades on Baseball Reference during the Cashman era, I forgot to get mad at tonight's loss! A nice diversion! [img src="//storage.proboards.com/6828121/images/udcwFqPimnXDtjoTmoVL.gif" class="smile" alt=" "] I thought Sori had come up through our system. Interesting we got him in a trade. Its both. He came up through our system, we later traded him away for A-Rod, then we traded for him late in his career.
"Soriano began his professional career with Hiroshima in 1996, but signed with the Yankees as a free agent in 1998 and was assigned to play in minor league baseball. The next year, he was the Most Valuable Player (MVP) in the All-Star Futures Game, and made his MLB debut for the Yankees, with whom he would win two American League championships. The Yankees traded Soriano to the Rangers after the 2003 season, and the Rangers traded Soriano to the Nationals after the 2005 season. He signed a contract as a free agent with the Cubs before the 2007 season. The Cubs traded Soriano to the Yankees in 2013, and the Yankees released him in 2014."
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Post by greatfatness on Jun 7, 2019 21:44:46 GMT -5
While we give German a hard time Yankee offense is less than awesome. What the heck does boone see in Morales. He is one of the worse hitters on the team. The Yankees offense that you deem less than awesome is 4th in the league in runs per game despite all of their injuries. Run is what an offense is supposed to create. So is everybody except the top there teams less than awesome or do you just not know what you’re talking about? |
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Post by greatfatness on Jun 7, 2019 21:53:32 GMT -5
Didn't mean to be too rough on you Noetsi. You're a nice man. Just happened to push my button on a bad night for the Yankees. Not a problem. I am frustrated to. I think Cashman should have gotten Keuchal. Its not like the Yankee can't afford him. They make simply tons of money and seem unwilling to spend it (which is not just my analysis). Maybe the Steinbreners tell him not to spend it. 5-2. Probably does not matter. “It’s not like rhe Yankees can’t afford him?” Is that really a serious comment? Here’s a reality check. Every team in Major League Baseball can afford him. Without question. Irrefutable. That statement about whether or not they can afford him means absolutely nothing. The league is swimming in money. The Mets “can afford him”. The worst team in baseball “can afford him”. That’s a statement that demonstrates a complete lack of interest about the business. The issue isn't whether or not they can afford him. The issue is whether the expense justifies a marginal improvement in expected revenue or not as compared to alternative uses for that investment. Just like any other business. |
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Post by noetsi on Jun 7, 2019 22:00:26 GMT -5
Not every team has the same revenue stream. Risk is pertinent to income flows in business. If you spend 11 million and make 50 million that is not the same risk as spending 50 million and earning 500 million. As I noted this is not my analysis, others have noted how little the Yankees spend these days relative to their revenue stream.
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Post by greatfatness on Jun 7, 2019 22:07:34 GMT -5
Not every team has the same revenue stream. Risk is pertinent to income flows in business. If you spend 11 million and make 50 million that is not the same risk as spending 50 million and earning 500 million. As I noted this is not my analysis, others have noted how little the Yankees spend these days relative to their revenue stream. You are talking nonsense. The league as a whole and every team in it “can afford” Keuchel. Those were the words you chose, not me. The Yankees “can afford” not only Keuchel, but also Harper, Kimbrel and Machado. No problem at all. Without question they “can afford” to spend on every one of those players all at the same time. Whether is it a sensible business decision to invest the money to acquire any of them is an entirely different decision and actually the only decision the people making the decision need to care about. Not whether a fan thinks they “can afford” to spend money on something. Those words mean nothing. |
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Post by inger on Jun 7, 2019 22:07:41 GMT -5
Not every team has the same revenue stream. Risk is pertinent to income flows in business. If you spend 11 million and make 50 million that is not the same risk as spending 50 million and earning 500 million. As I noted this is not my analysis, others have noted how little the Yankees spend these days relative to their revenue stream. Having a large revenue stream does not insure profitability. Nor does it justify spending money on the wrong product just because you can... |
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Post by inger on Jun 7, 2019 22:17:28 GMT -5
Or anything else for that matter  Didn't mean to be too rough on you Noetsi. You're a nice man. Just happened to push my button on a bad night for the Yankees. Pipps = Mo Howard Noetsi = Larry Fine... Pipps = <smack> Noetsi = “May I have another, sir”?... |
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Post by inger on Jun 7, 2019 22:21:32 GMT -5
Can someone help me understand..... How is Kendrys Morales better than Mike Ford? Profound question. I wish I had thought of that one. I like Ford, and he was hitting the ball much better than his .130 batting average. I know that’s not saying a lot, but... |
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Post by inger on Jun 7, 2019 22:28:55 GMT -5
I wonder if the Yankees would some kid, making his third career start, pitch into the 7th inning with 100+ pitches? We would have to have someone good enough to do that from our minors...which is not very likely. Which you are saying even though it’s doubtful you could name two Yankee MiLB pitchers that have never had MLB time...C’mon, Russ. Be positive. Or at least a tiny bit less negative. Or even inform yourself a tiny bit before you speak up...You know, Like karl used to do. Walk down to the library and look some things up... |
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Post by inger on Jun 7, 2019 22:31:50 GMT -5
We should have just kept Tyler Wade as a Swiss Army knife and speed off the bench. I am baffled by the attachment to Morales. He must have compromising photographs of Randy Levine. While I’m certainly not thrilled with Morales, he’s far from a huge concern right now. He has almost 5,000 MLB at bats and less than 70 with the Yankees. What if we had ditched Noetsi after 70 below average posts?... 😂 |
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Post by noetsi on Jun 7, 2019 22:48:34 GMT -5
Not every team has the same revenue stream. Risk is pertinent to income flows in business. If you spend 11 million and make 50 million that is not the same risk as spending 50 million and earning 500 million. As I noted this is not my analysis, others have noted how little the Yankees spend these days relative to their revenue stream. Having a large revenue stream does not insure profitability. Nor does it justify spending money on the wrong product just because you can... I think if you ask a business professor about this logic you will find they agree. |
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Post by noetsi on Jun 7, 2019 22:52:43 GMT -5
Not every team has the same revenue stream. Risk is pertinent to income flows in business. If you spend 11 million and make 50 million that is not the same risk as spending 50 million and earning 500 million. As I noted this is not my analysis, others have noted how little the Yankees spend these days relative to their revenue stream. Having a large revenue stream does not insure profitability. Nor does it justify spending money on the wrong product just because you can... It means the risk to you is less than it is for teams with less revenue. Profitability is not the issue here. The yankees probably can not spend enough money to be unprofitable given their revenue. www.forbes.com/teams/new-york-yankees/#30a6bce44e6e |
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Post by noetsi on Jun 7, 2019 23:03:31 GMT -5
I am baffled by the attachment to Morales. He must have compromising photographs of Randy Levine. While I’m certainly not thrilled with Morales, he’s far from a huge concern right now. He has almost 5,000 MLB at bats and less than 70 with the Yankees. What if we had ditched Noetsi after 70 below average posts?... 😂 I think the concern is we have a DH bating near .200 with little power. Of the 81 players who have enough hits to rank (Morales does not) he would tie for 77th. This is in a position who's sole purpose is to hit well. Hard to believe there are not better options than that. But maybe we don't. www.espn.com/mlb/stats/batting/_/league/al/count/42/qualified/true |
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Post by inger on Jun 7, 2019 23:55:26 GMT -5
While I’m certainly not thrilled with Morales, he’s far from a huge concern right now. He has almost 5,000 MLB at bats and less than 70 with the Yankees. What if we had ditched Noetsi after 70 below average posts?... 😂 I think the concern is we have a DH bating near .200 with little power. Of the 81 players who have enough hits to rank (Morales does not) he would tie for 77th. This is in a position who's sole purpose is to hit well. Hard to believe there are not better options than that. But maybe we don't. www.espn.com/mlb/stats/batting/_/league/al/count/42/qualified/trueOffensive value can’t be determined over a short sampling of at bats. For the Yankees purposes, nothing really matters until what Morales has done over the last 70 or so plate appearances. He’s a habitual slow starter who has had even worse starts than this year in the past and has still wound up having a good season because he hits better in hot weather. I’m not really campaigning for him because I don’t care much for the rest of his game...But you’re greatly overstating your case... |
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