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Post by bomberhojoe on Mar 18, 2024 18:41:05 GMT -5
That was a different time. Late last year, my daughter saw Taylor Swift in concert for around $500. For $500, I saw some of the best music acts like the Stones, The Who, Bruce Springteen, The Clash, David Bowie, Queen, Roxy Music, ELO, Tom Petty, T-Rex, Peter Gabriel, Prince, Michael Jackson and Sly and the Family Stone and still would change to see more acts. Of course. But $5. then is $50. today...so it's not inflation. One of my sons was a HUGE U2 fan. I remember when they played Mile High Stadium around '96 it cost him around $350 each...he took his girlfriend. BTW...when you saw Springsteen, did he throw any "speedballs"? I saw U2 three times in the 80s and early 90s, never paid more than $75. |
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Post by bomberhojoe on Mar 18, 2024 18:45:17 GMT -5
When I was younger I thought Neil was a bit of an overplayer. But as I got older I grew to appreciate him more. He was an amazing talent! Gone too soon. Yep...I wasn't a "Rush" fan, so I didn't pay a lot of attention to them. It wasn't until later that I did, and he was awesome. I think he was a big fan of Buddy Rich...and was an accomplished jazz drummer himself. And yeah...a lot of heartache in his far too short life. Neil was a huge Buddy Rich fan. He put together a tribute album "Burning for Buddy". A collection of some of the greatest drummers played Buddy's songs. You can find many of the performances on Youtube. |
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 18, 2024 18:48:36 GMT -5
Of course. But $5. then is $50. today...so it's not inflation. One of my sons was a HUGE U2 fan. I remember when they played Mile High Stadium around '96 it cost him around $350 each...he took his girlfriend. BTW...when you saw Springsteen, did he throw any "speedballs"? I saw U2 three times in the 80s and early 90s, never paid more than $75. Inflation...or price gouging. |
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Post by bomberhojoe on Mar 18, 2024 18:56:00 GMT -5
I saw U2 three times in the 80s and early 90s, never paid more than $75. Inflation...or price gouging. Maybe a bit of both? |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on Mar 18, 2024 21:15:24 GMT -5
How do you rate Gene Krupa? And who are your favorite rock drummers? I'm a big Gene Krupa fan! He was flashy, but was a great timekeeper. Sing Sing Sing is a absolute classic tune. Some of my favorite rock drummers have already been mentioned. Jeff Porcaro, Neil Peart, Steve Gadd, Bonham and Dennis Chambers. Some others (in no particular order) are Stewart Copeland, Vinnie Colaiuta, Carmine Appice, Steve Smith, Carl Palmer, Steve Jordan, Phil Collins, Kenny Aronoff, and Omar Hakim. I probably don't know how to evaluate drummers but I've always though Max Wienberg and Russ Kunkel were good. |
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Post by inger on Mar 18, 2024 21:29:46 GMT -5
Kenney Jones’ manic skin pounding and solo on Rod Stewart’s “I’m Losing You” is my favorite drum riff of all time. I know that probably means I’m alone, but I don’t care…I was never one of the cool kids, anyway… youtu.be/1p-WDv2sLTw?si=FQwRcK1lWCEFli2J |
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Post by Renfield on Mar 18, 2024 22:19:11 GMT -5
Kenney Jones’ manic skin pounding and solo on Rod Stewart’s “I’m Losing You” is my favorite drum riff of all time. I know that probably means I’m alone, but I don’t care…I was never one of the cool kids, anyway… youtu.be/1p-WDv2sLTw?si=FQwRcK1lWCEFli2JYou are not alone, inger! |
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Post by inger on Mar 18, 2024 22:38:23 GMT -5
Kenney Jones’ manic skin pounding and solo on Rod Stewart’s “I’m Losing You” is my favorite drum riff of all time. I know that probably means I’m alone, but I don’t care…I was never one of the cool kids, anyway… youtu.be/1p-WDv2sLTw?si=FQwRcK1lWCEFli2JYou are not alone, inger! Thank you my Bud! I shoulda known you’d pull me out of the darkness…We should have a thread on just Sir Rodney and the Faces, big and small… |
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Post by bomberhojoe on Mar 19, 2024 7:37:40 GMT -5
I'm a big Gene Krupa fan! He was flashy, but was a great timekeeper. Sing Sing Sing is a absolute classic tune. Some of my favorite rock drummers have already been mentioned. Jeff Porcaro, Neil Peart, Steve Gadd, Bonham and Dennis Chambers. Some others (in no particular order) are Stewart Copeland, Vinnie Colaiuta, Carmine Appice, Steve Smith, Carl Palmer, Steve Jordan, Phil Collins, Kenny Aronoff, and Omar Hakim. I probably don't know how to evaluate drummers but I've always though Max Wienberg and Russ Kunkel were good. I am a Russ Kunkel fan as well. I would categorize both Kunkel and Weinberg as solid, serviceable drummers. I wouldn't rate them among the top drummers, but they get the job done and serve the music. The importance of serving the music cannot be overstated in my opinion. I have always felt that musicians, in particular the rhythm section, should not strive to stand out, but compliment and drive the song forward. Here's Kunkel at his best! |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 19, 2024 10:47:28 GMT -5
Kenney Jones’ manic skin pounding and solo on Rod Stewart’s “I’m Losing You” is my favorite drum riff of all time. I know that probably means I’m alone, but I don’t care…I was never one of the cool kids, anyway… youtu.be/1p-WDv2sLTw?si=FQwRcK1lWCEFli2JYou are not alone, inger! Inger, if you were listening to Small Faces in the late 60s that would pretty much have made you avant garde. Although they had a lot of hits in the UK, "Itchykoo Park" was the only song of theirs that made it onto the Billboard Top 40. "Tin Soldier" did make it into the bottom rungs of the Hot 100 in 1967, whereas they had tons of hits back home. I always figured one way to be considered ahead of the pack musically was to be in on an act that was big in the UK but almost unknown in the US. Like Brinsley Schwarz or The Buzzcocks in the 1970s. I think Kenney Jones gets plenty of props for his drumming -- after all, he joined up with The Who after Keith Moon's death -- and to my percussion-untrained ears your pick sounds pretty good to me too. I like Rod's take on "I'm Losing You" even while still loving the original by The Temptations. I wasn't that crazy about Rare Earth's version. So maybe you were one of the cool kids anyway. Unless you were also listening to Donny and Marie or had posters of Wayne Newton up on your wall. Those definitely would have been violations. |
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 19, 2024 11:14:11 GMT -5
"Rare Earth" also covered Temps' / Smoky Robinson's "Get Ready". |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 19, 2024 11:17:16 GMT -5
How do you rate Gene Krupa? And who are your favorite rock drummers? I'm a big Gene Krupa fan! He was flashy, but was a great timekeeper. Sing Sing Sing is a absolute classic tune. Some of my favorite rock drummers have already been mentioned. Jeff Porcaro, Neil Peart, Steve Gadd, Bonham and Dennis Chambers. Some others (in no particular order) are Stewart Copeland, Vinnie Colaiuta, Carmine Appice, Steve Smith, Carl Palmer, Steve Jordan, Phil Collins, Kenny Aronoff, and Omar Hakim. Oh man, "Sing Sing Sing" is a rocker for sure. It still sounds good today. I know he sort of achieved superstardom working with Goodman, who was brilliant of course but difficult to work with. Krupa did a couple of albums with Buddy Rich that you are probably aware of. I always defer to those who understand the nuances of drumming. Yeah, the guys you named usually seem to pop up on lists by knowledgeable critics. I also liked Keith Moon, Ginger Baker, Mitch Mitchell from Hendrix, Al Jackson from Booker T, Benny Benjamin from the Funk Brothers at Motown and James Brown's two main drummers, Clyde Stubblefield and Jabo Starks. Of course Clyde and Jabo had to play great or James would levy some serious fines. Since I'm not a drummer, I also like flash, so a guy like Dino Danelli from The Rascals is up my alley for twirling his sticks and flipping them up in the air. Sounds good enough to me. A product of my age, but the first drum solo that really caught my ear was Ron Wilson of The Surfaris doing "Wipe Out." I still love it. I saw those guys play during Surf Night (one of my sweet spots) at The House Of Blues in LA in the 90s. Before they went on, they held a drawing and the winner got to sit in on drums for "Wipe Out." He got a lot of laughs. For pure endurance, I still give credit to Ron Bushy of Iron Butterfly for that eleven-minute (or whatever it was) solo in "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida." But thanks so much for your insights on this Joe. Much appreciated. |
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Post by pippsheadache on Mar 19, 2024 11:21:09 GMT -5
"Rare Earth" also covered Temps' / Smoky Robinson's "Get Ready". Yep. One of the few white acts at Motown, and they were covering hits from just a few years earlier. I never quite got them. Another white guy with Motown (subsidiary Sussex) was guitarist Dennis Coffey, who had a big instrumental hit with "Scorpio" in 1971. That one I really like. |
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Post by jiminy on Mar 19, 2024 11:31:15 GMT -5
Inflation...or price gouging. Maybe a bit of both? Not to mention more elobrate staging. I am more old school like guitarist Joe Perry of Aerosmith stated in his song "Let The Music Do The Talking". |
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Post by azbob643 on Mar 19, 2024 11:37:40 GMT -5
Not to mention more elobrate staging. I am more old school like guitarist Joe Perry of Aerosmith stated in his song "Let The Music Do Talking". I think a lot of it may be due to how artists generate income today. Used to be bands toured to promote their record sales...now they make much of their money playing concerts. |
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