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Post by inger on Jun 11, 2021 14:17:38 GMT -5
Me too Kaybli hope it's nothing. What annoys me further is you are going to have these types of games from time to time just wish it wasn't a time that the Red Sox lost 2 of 3 to Houston. What also sucks is I feel like the Yankees have played pretty well against the AL elite of Chicago and Houston winning series vs both while Boston didn't win any vs both of them. Losing all those games to Tampa Bay and Toronto and then getting swept by the Chowdaheads is what is really hurting us. Face it. What’s been hurting this team is simply playing poor baseball. We have a collection of a dozen or so players that are exceptional but we also have some players that don’t fit that mold. Anyway, collections of players don’t win games. Good teams do. This group just won’t or can’t jell into a team. Too many injuries? Don’t get along well? Petty resentments? I don’t know, but they don’t look good playing together. They make too many mistakes… |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jun 11, 2021 14:51:40 GMT -5
Losing all those games to Tampa Bay and Toronto and then getting swept by the Chowdaheads is what is really hurting us. Face it. What’s been hurting this team is simply playing poor baseball. We have a collection of a dozen or so players that are exceptional but we also have some players that don’t fit that mold. Anyway, collections of players don’t win games. Good teams do. This group just won’t or can’t jell into a team. Too many injuries? Don’t get along well? Petty resentments? I don’t know, but they don’t look good playing together. They make too many mistakes… It's hard to blame injuries there's not that many people out. Voit should be back soon so it's really just what Hicks? On the offensive side? Obviously the bullpen could use Britton and Oday and the rotation could use Severino but the pitching has been mostly serviceable. So I cant see the absence of Voit and Hicks hurting this team too much. |
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Post by inger on Jun 11, 2021 15:38:54 GMT -5
Face it. What’s been hurting this team is simply playing poor baseball. We have a collection of a dozen or so players that are exceptional but we also have some players that don’t fit that mold. Anyway, collections of players don’t win games. Good teams do. This group just won’t or can’t jell into a team. Too many injuries? Don’t get along well? Petty resentments? I don’t know, but they don’t look good playing together. They make too many mistakes… It's hard to blame injuries there's not that many people out. Voit should be back soon so it's really just what Hicks? On the offensive side? Obviously the bullpen could use Britton and Oday and the rotation could use Severino but the pitching has been mostly serviceable. So I cant see the absence of Voit and Hicks hurting this team too much. No, injuries seem to be prevalent all throughout the game. Hicks was at a point where he was hurting us by playing. I think we need a new centerfielder going forward. Dreams of Florial would be wonderful, but so far he hasn’t proven he can hit for average at any level. Obviously if Voit was playing and at the level he played last season, he’d be a difference maker, and we’d have never seen Odor. Slumps. That’s what’s killed us. It’s rare to see as many players struggle for so long at one time, but it’s happening. The pitching took a big hit when Kluber went down, but we shouldn’t have been depending on him anyway. It’s time to stop crying about Severino, because he’s on the way back and might be a big help as the season wears on. The biggest disappointment for me is the up the middle defense, Gardner accepted. Torres just isn’t cutting it, Odor is average at best, and Sanchez is a mixed bag of amazing skills and garbage for brains that will never put it all together… |
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Post by BillyBones on Jun 11, 2021 18:08:51 GMT -5
Well, look at this roster. It is not close to being a championship team, even if everyone played to the numbers on their card, imo. Too many holes.
Hicks: marginal OF on any team.
Odor: doesn't belong at the ML level.
Wade: lacks a ML bat.
1B: Voit may have had a career year last shortened season. not dependable health or production.
Torres: Not a good defensive SS. Has never lived up to the hype. Still young though.
Frazier: World class bat speed that is a popup and GIDP All-Star.
Sanchez: Rising fast on my all-time list of disliked Yankees. A watcher knows why.
Gardner: He gives his all, it's just not good enough any more.
This is not a roster that wins titles. Cashman needs to go. There are at least a couple dozen baseball men who could construct a stronger roster, given the Yankee resources. Then there is the farm system. Has anyone gotten less ML talent through their farm system for the last 15 years then the Yankees?
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Post by BillyBones on Jun 11, 2021 18:19:31 GMT -5
Well, look at this roster. It is not close to being a championship team, even if everyone played to the numbers on their card, imo. Too many holes. Hicks: marginal OF on any team. Odor: doesn't belong at the ML level. Wade: lacks a ML bat. 1B: Voit may have had a career year last shortened season. not dependable health or production. Torres: Not a good defensive SS. Has never lived up to the hype. Still young though. Frazier: World class bat speed that is a popup and GIDP All-Star. Sanchez: Rising fast on my all-time list of disliked Yankees. A watcher knows why. Gardner: He gives his all, it's just not good enough any more. This is not a roster that wins titles. Cashman needs to go. There are at least a couple dozen baseball men who could construct a stronger roster, given the Yankee resources. Then there is the farm system. Has anyone gotten less ML talent through their farm system for the last 15 years then the Yankees? ADDED COMMENTS: The last is probably hyperbole, and nonsense, but I am tired of hearing the hype from the minors and then having few players that really contribute. By far, the majority of the roster was signed and developed by other teams. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jun 11, 2021 22:51:54 GMT -5
Well, look at this roster. It is not close to being a championship team, even if everyone played to the numbers on their card, imo. Too many holes. Hicks: marginal OF on any team. Odor: doesn't belong at the ML level. Wade: lacks a ML bat. 1B: Voit may have had a career year last shortened season. not dependable health or production. Torres: Not a good defensive SS. Has never lived up to the hype. Still young though. Frazier: World class bat speed that is a popup and GIDP All-Star. Sanchez: Rising fast on my all-time list of disliked Yankees. A watcher knows why. Gardner: He gives his all, it's just not good enough any more. This is not a roster that wins titles. Cashman needs to go. There are at least a couple dozen baseball men who could construct a stronger roster, given the Yankee resources. Then there is the farm system. Has anyone gotten less ML talent through their farm system for the last 15 years then the Yankees? Ok, but lets not act like the Rays have this golden roster either? They were a 500 team before a 15-1 streak or whatever plus they lead the league in strikeouts. I do think the roster could be improved, but there's enough talent on this team to win. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jun 11, 2021 23:00:46 GMT -5
I still think DJLM is a lot of the blame here for years the Yankees were missing a consistent contact hitter that could get hits, drive in runs, and also have some power at times. They always had this kind of player on their championship teams. DJLM was that for the past two seasons. Without him performing like this it hurts the team greatly.
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Post by rizzuto on Jun 11, 2021 23:29:15 GMT -5
Well, look at this roster. It is not close to being a championship team, even if everyone played to the numbers on their card, imo. Too many holes. Hicks: marginal OF on any team. Odor: doesn't belong at the ML level. Wade: lacks a ML bat. 1B: Voit may have had a career year last shortened season. not dependable health or production. Torres: Not a good defensive SS. Has never lived up to the hype. Still young though. Frazier: World class bat speed that is a popup and GIDP All-Star. Sanchez: Rising fast on my all-time list of disliked Yankees. A watcher knows why. Gardner: He gives his all, it's just not good enough any more. This is not a roster that wins titles. Cashman needs to go. There are at least a couple dozen baseball men who could construct a stronger roster, given the Yankee resources. Then there is the farm system. Has anyone gotten less ML talent through their farm system for the last 15 years then the Yankees? Ok, but lets not act like the Rays have this golden roster either? They were a 500 team before a 15-1 streak or whatever plus they lead the league in strikeouts. I do think the roster could be improved, but there's enough talent on this team to win. I agree, Anthony. This team is not appreciably different than the 2017 and 2019 clubs that were cheated from the WS by the Astros. However, I do agree with Inger that this team has not played good baseball, but many of my complaints are fixable. Being smart on the bases and improving defensively are simply a matter of focused effort. Getting back Voit, O’Day, Britton, Kluber, and Severino should have huge positive effects on the bullpen, the starting rotation, and the lineup offensively. |
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Post by inger on Jun 11, 2021 23:30:41 GMT -5
I still think DJLM is a lot of the blame here for years the Yankees were missing a consistent contact hitter that could get hits, drive in runs, and also have some power at times. They always had this kind of player on their championship teams. DJLM was that for the past two seasons. Without him performing like this it hurts the team greatly. You can’t hit behind, nor drive in base runners that don’t exist. That and being needlessly jockeyed from position to position haven’t helped him meet his maximum performance levels. I look for him to finish at worst in the .270’s-.280’s and upping his power game the rest of the way… He’s pressing, just like many of the others… |
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Post by rizzuto on Jun 11, 2021 23:47:32 GMT -5
I still think DJLM is a lot of the blame here for years the Yankees were missing a consistent contact hitter that could get hits, drive in runs, and also have some power at times. They always had this kind of player on their championship teams. DJLM was that for the past two seasons. Without him performing like this it hurts the team greatly. Could not agree more. Getting DJ LeMahieu back near to his 2019 form is important to this club. Having said that, I am quite encouraged lately by the performances of Gleyber Torres and Miguel Andujar. Having those two guys hitting line drives again can overcome the occasional power outage from the big boppers, enabling this team to score in different ways. Andujar, Torres, LeMahieu, Urshela, and even Judge do not need home runs to be successful offensively. They have the ability to drive in runs with base hits and doubles. |
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Post by rizzuto on Jun 12, 2021 0:01:08 GMT -5
Since May 28:
Gleyber Torres: .326/.396/.435/.831
Miguel Andujar: .326/.348/.674/1.022
Gary Sanchez: .342/.419/.579/.998
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Post by anthonyd46 on Jun 12, 2021 0:05:01 GMT -5
I still think DJLM is a lot of the blame here for years the Yankees were missing a consistent contact hitter that could get hits, drive in runs, and also have some power at times. They always had this kind of player on their championship teams. DJLM was that for the past two seasons. Without him performing like this it hurts the team greatly. You can’t hit behind, nor drive in base runners that don’t exist. That and being needlessly jockeyed from position to position haven’t helped him meet his maximum performance levels. I look for him to finish at worst in the .270’s-.280’s and upping his power game the rest of the way… He’s pressing, just like many of the others… Look I can see the excuse for the RBIS, but that doesn't excuse the .250 average or the low .300 OBP or the 600's OPS. |
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Post by rizzuto on Jun 12, 2021 0:32:27 GMT -5
I would really like to see these lineups tried at some point:
1. DJ LeMahieu (1B)
2. Aaron Judge (CF)
3. Gleyber Torres (SS)
4. Giancarlo Stanton (RF)
5. Luke Voit (DH)
6. Gio Urshela (3B)
7. Gary Sanchez (C)
8. Miguel Andujar (LF)
9. Tyler Wade (2B)
1. DJ LeMahieu (2B)
2. Aaron Judge (CF)
3. Gleyber Torres (SS)
4. Giancarlo Stanton (RF)
5. Luke Voit (1B)
6. Gio Urshela (3B)
7. Gary Sanchez (C)
8. Miguel Andujar (DH)
9. Brett Gardner (LF)
Our best infield is the first (actually Wade would be SS and Gleyber at 2nd, but that would be too much change in the middle of a season). Stanton played most of his career in right field and was solid. Gardy is used to playing left, which is a lot of ground to cover in YS. I suspect Stanton might be less apt to pull muscles if he played the field more and not treated like he’s 40 years old. Somehow muscle groups have to stress themselves to get stronger and resilient and responsive.
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Post by kaybli on Jun 12, 2021 2:53:09 GMT -5
I would really like to see these lineups tried at some point: 1. DJ LeMahieu (1B) 2. Aaron Judge (CF) 3. Gleyber Torres (SS) 4. Giancarlo Stanton (RF) 5. Luke Voit (DH) 6. Gio Urshela (3B) 7. Gary Sanchez (C) 8. Miguel Andujar (LF) 9. Tyler Wade (2B) 1. DJ LeMahieu (2B) 2. Aaron Judge (CF) 3. Gleyber Torres (SS) 4. Giancarlo Stanton (RF) 5. Luke Voit (1B) 6. Gio Urshela (3B) 7. Gary Sanchez (C) 8. Miguel Andujar (DH) 9. Brett Gardner (LF) Our best infield is the first (actually Wade would be SS and Gleyber at 2nd, but that would be too much change in the middle of a season). Stanton played most of his career in right field and was solid. Gardy is used to playing left, which is a lot of ground to cover in YS. I suspect Stanton might be less apt to pull muscles if he played the field more and not treated like he’s 40 years old. Somehow muscle groups have to stress themselves to get stronger and resilient and responsive. I would love to see the first lineup.
In the second I don't know why you'd play Judge in CF over Gardner. Make it CF Brett, RF Judge, LF/DH Stanton/Andujar.
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Post by pippsheadache on Jun 12, 2021 2:58:27 GMT -5
I guess Clint is out in the cold. And deservedly based on his performance. I would like to think that he has a Miggy-style resurrection still in him.
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