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Post by azbob643 on Dec 24, 2023 15:51:29 GMT -5
Harper also has an edginess that creates a sense of urgency and lack of acceptance for losing. That is something the Yankees sorely lack with Boone's "there's plenty of time to turn things around" mantra last season. Judge is more like the soft-spoken and relaxed Bernie Williams. Jeter, Tino, Posada, O'Neill, and Mariano were all hyper-focused and that energy permeated the clubhouse and anyone who joined that team. Harper was exactly the type of player the Yankees needed, but Cashman thought there was no place to play him with Stanton, Hicks, Frazier, and Andujar - what a horrible judge of talent. At the time that Harper was a free agent he was also seemingly flip, arrogant and punk like in demeanor. I made the mistake of thinking he was an eternal child that would bring problems to the clubhouse, and I think that may have been the problem the Yankees had with signing him, as well. Exactly. I wanted to dislike him when he came into the league. He could've easily had an attitude...on the cover of SI at 18yo. Instead, he's been a terrific team player. My only regret is he didn't deck Papelbon when he attacked him in the dugout. |
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Post by rizzuto on Dec 24, 2023 17:16:33 GMT -5
At the time that Harper was a free agent he was also seemingly flip, arrogant and punk like in demeanor. I made the mistake of thinking he was an eternal child that would bring problems to the clubhouse, and I think that may have been the problem the Yankees had with signing him, as well. Exactly. I wanted to dislike him when he came into the league. He could've easily had an attitude...on the cover of SI at 18yo. Instead, he's been a terrific team player. My only regret is he didn't deck Papelbon when he attacked him in the dugout.  I am quite ashamed to say that Jonathan Papelbon was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana; however, he attended high school in Florida and then enrolled at Mississippi State, so we do not claim him as one of ours, as Louisiana natives. Playing for the Red Sox and being totally uncouth simply put an indelible imprimatur on his head as a putz. |
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Post by inger on Dec 24, 2023 17:49:18 GMT -5
At the time that Harper was a free agent he was also seemingly flip, arrogant and punk like in demeanor. I made the mistake of thinking he was an eternal child that would bring problems to the clubhouse, and I think that may have been the problem the Yankees had with signing him, as well. There was also the fact that during his time in Washington, Harper had only averaged 132 games per season and was trending toward a lower average of games. He’s only averaged 116 games per year so far with Philadelphia. His all-out style of play is admirable, but a player that can’t take the field must often either be replaced by the dreaded “replacement” player or (We saw what THAT looks like in 2023), or more often cause a team to juggle their defensive alignment to keep bats in the lineup. I think it still remains to be seen whether or not Harper can complete his career on the field enough to justify his contract. Perhaps passing on the talent in favor of a healthier player will remain the wiser choice. Perhaps not… Stanton only averaged 123 games per season before coming to the Yankees; Aaron Hicks even less. Should we even discuss Harrison Bader's availability? Bryce Harper has two World Series rings, two MVPs, and is a clutch performer. Also, with Philly, that 116 games per season is misleading because of the 60 game season in 2020. If you take that into consideration, he has averaged 82% posting of Phillies' games on the schedule, which is 133 games in an average 162 game season, and that includes his time missed for Tommy John surgery. Even with Tommy John surgery, he played in 126 games in 2023, coming back months sooner than projected. If the choice is a likely Hall of Famer for 132 games per season and a clutch hitter in the playoffs or a healthy Calhoun, McKinney, Oswaldo Cabrera, or Bauers, etc. I think you'll be in the minority. Which begs the question, who is this guaranteed healthy player you would have preferred over Bryce Harper? Hah hah on me. I had forgotten about the 60- game 2020 season…I have no idea why or how… But those chimps you mentioned all combine to make about $12.50 per hour compared to the $300M… |
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Post by inger on Dec 24, 2023 17:52:20 GMT -5
At the time that Harper was a free agent he was also seemingly flip, arrogant and punk like in demeanor. I made the mistake of thinking he was an eternal child that would bring problems to the clubhouse, and I think that may have been the problem the Yankees had with signing him, as well. There was also the fact that during his time in Washington, Harper had only averaged 132 games per season and was trending toward a lower average of games. He’s only averaged 116 games per year so far with Philadelphia. His all-out style of play is admirable, but a player that can’t take the field must often either be replaced by the dreaded “replacement” player or (We saw what THAT looks like in 2023), or more often cause a team to juggle their defensive alignment to keep bats in the lineup. I think it still remains to be seen whether or not Harper can complete his career on the field enough to justify his contract. Perhaps passing on the talent in favor of a healthier player will remain the wiser choice. Perhaps not… Stanton only averaged 123 games per season before coming to the Yankees; Aaron Hicks even less. Should we even discuss Harrison Bader's availability? Bryce Harper has two World Series rings, two MVPs, and is a clutch performer. Also, with Philly, that 116 games per season is misleading because of the 60 game season in 2020. If you take that into consideration, he has averaged 82% posting of Phillies' games on the schedule, which is 133 games in an average 162 game season, and that includes his time missed for Tommy John surgery. Even with Tommy John surgery, he played in 126 games in 2023, coming back months sooner than projected. If the choice is a likely Hall of Famer for 132 games per season and a clutch hitter in the playoffs or a healthy Calhoun, McKinney, Oswaldo Cabrera, or Bauers, etc. I think you'll be in the minority. Which begs the question, who is this guaranteed healthy player you would have preferred over Bryce Harper? Reread my post, bison breath. I said I made a mistake… 😂😂😂 May the bird of paradise fly up your nose. May an elephant caress you with his toes… 😂😂😂 |
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I am quite ashamed to say that Jonathan Papelbon was born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana; however, he attended high school in Florida and then enrolled at Mississippi State, so we do not claim him as one of ours, as Louisiana natives. Playing for the Red Sox and being totally uncouth simply put an indelible imprimatur on his head as a putz.