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Post by 1955nyyfan on Dec 22, 2023 11:16:34 GMT -5
Like I posted to you previously, Kay, I just hoped the Yankees wouldn't lose him over a couple millions dollars per year over ten years. Hal and Cashman are just too predictable. Well, it's a done deal, so let's move on. I'm sure Cashman is on the telephone right now to the agent for Frankie Montas. What is interesting is Yankees AAV was higher. I don't think money was the reason the Yankees lost him. |
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Post by anthonyd46 on Dec 22, 2023 11:18:37 GMT -5
Like I posted to you previously, Kay, I just hoped the Yankees wouldn't lose him over a couple millions dollars per year over ten years. Hal and Cashman are just too predictable. Well, it's a done deal, so let's move on. I'm sure Cashman is on the telephone right now to the agent for Frankie Montas. What is interesting is Yankees AAV was higher. I don't think money was the reason the Yankees lost him. Sounds like the playing with Japanese players thing seemed to be important Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by ypaterson on Dec 22, 2023 11:59:09 GMT -5
Thanks to everyone at this board for offering a home to us displaced YES posters. The invite was very gracious.
Yamamoto might end up winning a CY but I am not sure that even if he does that contract is justified. At some point every team has to recognize its financial limits. It did not take superfan Steve Cohen to see that. The Yankees gave too much talent for one year of Soto. They are now at the mercy of the market and Scott Boras. Another mega deal would have made the situation even worse. And next year there are decisions on both Torres and Verdugo.
I do regret the Yankees not moving on other guys who would have helped...Rodriguez and Lugo.... while they were busy chasing Yamamoto.
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Post by kaybli on Dec 22, 2023 12:03:20 GMT -5
Thanks to everyone at this board for offering a home to us displaced YES posters. The invite was very gracious. Yamamoto might end up winning a CY but I am not sure that even if he does that contract is justified. At some point every team has to recognize its financial limits. It did not take superfan Steve Cohen to see that. The Yankees gave too much talent for one year of Soto. They are now at the mercy of the market and Scott Boras. Another mega deal would have made the situation even worse. And next year there are decisions on both Torres and Verdugo. I do regret the Yankees not moving on other guys who would have helped...Rodriguez and Lugo.... while they were busy chasing Yamamoto. Welcome to the board ypaterson!  Lugo would have been a nice get for the contract he signed with the Royals. |
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Post by Max on Dec 22, 2023 12:10:02 GMT -5
What's next? Try to trade for Burnes or Cease? Sign Monty? In my opinion, Burnes might be the best pitcher available. But, I think the Yankees might try and trade for Cease. Since the Yankees were willing to spend so much money on Yamamoto, I'm rooting for the Yankees to use that money to trade for either Burnes, Cease. Then sign Imanaga and Hader. |
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Post by Renfield on Dec 22, 2023 12:11:07 GMT -5
Thanks to everyone at this board for offering a home to us displaced YES posters. The invite was very gracious. Yamamoto might end up winning a CY but I am not sure that even if he does that contract is justified. At some point every team has to recognize its financial limits. It did not take superfan Steve Cohen to see that. The Yankees gave too much talent for one year of Soto. They are now at the mercy of the market and Scott Boras. Another mega deal would have made the situation even worse. And next year there are decisions on both Torres and Verdugo. I do regret the Yankees not moving on other guys who would have helped...Rodriguez and Lugo.... while they were busy chasing Yamamoto. Welcome to the board ypaterson! Lugo would have been a nice get for the contract he signed with the Royals. Can't we swing a deal with KC like we used to do back in the day? |
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Post by Max on Dec 22, 2023 12:13:06 GMT -5
So we're going to end up with jack? Just Soto as our added weapon? And maybe not even make the Playoffs again? What the hell has happened to this franchise. Far be it from me to disagree with a screen name that's shares the name of the borough I was born and raised in. But, I'm sure the Yankees have a Plan B, there's still starting pitchers available. |
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Post by chiyankee on Dec 22, 2023 12:17:53 GMT -5
What's next? Try to trade for Burnes or Cease? Sign Monty? In my opinion, Burnes might be the best pitcher available. But, I think the Yankees might try and trade for Cease. Since the Yankees were willing to spend so much money on Yamamoto, I'm rooting for the Yankees to use that money to trade for either Burnes, Cease. Then sign Imanaga and Hader. I agree, calling up the Brewers and seeing what their high demands for Burnes would be should be option #1. |
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Post by Max on Dec 22, 2023 12:18:53 GMT -5
Honestly get Bauer and Snell and Hader and Cease. If you were gonna commit $300 mil you can get all 4. Not any more ... the market has been reset I kind of want Giolito ... I think he will come a bit cheaper and he is most likely to pitch 30 games and 170 inn Yankees need stability in there rotation more than anything right now ... we cant count on Rodon or Nestor to be healthy. Snell or Bauer for upside plus Giolito or Monty for stability would be nice ... but I think that is likely going to be around $400m In the past Giolito has shown that he can be a MLB pitcher. Perhaps Blake can get him back on track. |
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Post by Max on Dec 22, 2023 12:37:02 GMT -5
Thanks to everyone at this board for offering a home to us displaced YES posters. The invite was very gracious. Yamamoto might end up winning a CY but I am not sure that even if he does that contract is justified. At some point every team has to recognize its financial limits. It did not take superfan Steve Cohen to see that. The Yankees gave too much talent for one year of Soto. They are now at the mercy of the market and Scott Boras. Another mega deal would have made the situation even worse. And next year there are decisions on both Torres and Verdugo. I do regret the Yankees not moving on other guys who would have helped...Rodriguez and Lugo.... while they were busy chasing Yamamoto. Hi Pat!
I think it was the years not the money that made the Yankees walk away. A few Japanese Pitchers that pitched in MLB got hurt. Even Ohtani, as great as he is hurt his elbow twice. Darvish has missed a lot of time. It looked like for awhile there that Tanaka might have needed arm surgery. A 12 year contract is a lot for a pitcher. I mean, it's a lot for an everyday player too. In my opinion, the only player the Yankees might sign to a contract for more than ten years is Soto. Maybe the Yankees try to sign Urias? Giolito? Imanaga?
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Post by bigjeep on Dec 22, 2023 12:50:16 GMT -5
The Dodgers are paying two players 1 billion dollars total! San Diago had to take a Bank loan to pay their players! This doesn't bode well for baseball! The chances of Soto staying with the Yankees just took a major hit with all that money being thrown around! He will become a FA! They gave up to much for a rental!
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Post by bomberhojoe on Dec 22, 2023 13:19:25 GMT -5
The Dodgers are paying two players 1 billion dollars total! San Diago had to take a Bank loan to pay their players! This doesn't bode well for baseball! The chances of Soto staying with the Yankees just took a major hit with all that money being thrown around! He will become a FA! They gave up to much for a rental! And one of those players has not proven he can cut it in MLB. I am glad the Yankees didn't overpay for Yamamoto, because I truly believe he will be a number 3 starter at best. |
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Post by ypaterson on Dec 22, 2023 13:28:06 GMT -5
Thanks to everyone at this board for offering a home to us displaced YES posters. The invite was very gracious. Yamamoto might end up winning a CY but I am not sure that even if he does that contract is justified. At some point every team has to recognize its financial limits. It did not take superfan Steve Cohen to see that. The Yankees gave too much talent for one year of Soto. They are now at the mercy of the market and Scott Boras. Another mega deal would have made the situation even worse. And next year there are decisions on both Torres and Verdugo. I do regret the Yankees not moving on other guys who would have helped...Rodriguez and Lugo.... while they were busy chasing Yamamoto. Hi Pat!
I think it was the years not the money that made the Yankees walk away. A few Japanese Pitchers that pitched in MLB got hurt. Even Ohtani, as great as he is hurt his elbow twice. Darvish has missed a lot of time. It looked like for awhile there that Tanaka might have needed arm surgery. A 12 year contract is a lot for a pitcher. I mean, it's a lot for an everyday player too. In my opinion, the only player the Yankees might sign to a contract for more than ten years is Soto. Maybe the Yankees try to sign Urias? Giolito? Imanaga?
Hello my friend, I think Urias is radioactive no matter what the DA in LA decides to do with that case. I don't think German ever faced criminal charges nor did Bauers but MLB came down hard on each of them. I's scratch him off my list. I am fine with Giolito. I don't want to part with any more prospects right now to save them for a deadline acquisition. |
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Post by inger on Dec 22, 2023 13:30:02 GMT -5
I mean I dunno one hand feel like they missed out, but on the other 300 mil for a pitcher that's over 25 and unproven in mlb... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk We either missed out on something good or we missed out on a huge disappointment… Kei Igawa was a big deal in Japan and was quite young when we signed him. Sadly, I do think this guy was/is the goods. He’s been so dominant in Japan that he’s got to be at least above average here. I can’t blame the Yanks for tapping out. We were used, that’s a certainty. That’s all right, that burden is on the Dodgers now… |
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Post by inger on Dec 22, 2023 13:31:49 GMT -5
Thanks to everyone at this board for offering a home to us displaced YES posters. The invite was very gracious. Yamamoto might end up winning a CY but I am not sure that even if he does that contract is justified. At some point every team has to recognize its financial limits. It did not take superfan Steve Cohen to see that. The Yankees gave too much talent for one year of Soto. They are now at the mercy of the market and Scott Boras. Another mega deal would have made the situation even worse. And next year there are decisions on both Torres and Verdugo. I do regret the Yankees not moving on other guys who would have helped...Rodriguez and Lugo.... while they were busy chasing Yamamoto. Astute observations! Welcome to our group of crazies… |
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