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Feb 4, 2024 14:16:29 GMT -5
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 14:16:29 GMT -5
As bulletin board fans we are not in any position to assess the futures of prospects like Jones or Warren. As a general rule, I would never trade any left handed bat who can play a position and hit for power. IMO those factors just play too well at Yankee Stadium and in an era where #99 is still in his prime, they are even more precious. Burnes would have been a great add for '24 but all the Yankees really need is a reliable starter who can give them 140 good innings of work. They had plenty of chances to get that. For this reason, I wouldn't trade Jones for one year of Burnes and I certainly wouldn't trade him for that package Milwaukee received from Baltimore. What has jones done in just 2 years in A ball and lower that makes him so untouchable?
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Post by rizzuto on Feb 4, 2024 14:20:28 GMT -5
As bulletin board fans we are not in any position to assess the futures of prospects like Jones or Warren. As a general rule, I would never trade any left handed bat who can play a position and hit for power. IMO those factors just play too well at Yankee Stadium and in an era where #99 is still in his prime, they are even more precious. Burnes would have been a great add for '24 but all the Yankees really need is a reliable starter who can give them 140 good innings of work. They had plenty of chances to get that. For this reason, I wouldn't trade Jones for one year of Burnes and I certainly wouldn't trade him for that package Milwaukee received from Baltimore. Baltimore made a great trade for themselves, as they didn't have to give up any of their first five prospects. If I were Baltimore, Monty would be next on my list.
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Feb 4, 2024 15:00:10 GMT -5
Post by chiyankee on Feb 4, 2024 15:00:10 GMT -5
For this reason, I wouldn't trade Jones for one year of Burnes and I certainly wouldn't trade him for that package Milwaukee received from Baltimore. What has jones done in just 2 years in A ball and lower that makes him so untouchable? I don't care what he's done, it's what he will do in the future.
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 15:05:47 GMT -5
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 15:05:47 GMT -5
What has jones done in just 2 years in A ball and lower that makes him so untouchable? I don't care what he's done, it's what he will do in the future. Oh you can predict the future now ? Tell me what are the lottery numbers for the next few years then?
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 15:13:31 GMT -5
Post by Max on Feb 4, 2024 15:13:31 GMT -5
I don't care what he's done, it's what he will do in the future. Oh you can predict the future now ? Tell me what are the lottery numbers for the next few years then? Why are you being sarcastic with one of the nicest posters here? As for predicting the future... What's that say about your post about Vivas and Arais?
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 15:19:27 GMT -5
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 15:19:27 GMT -5
Oh you can predict the future now ? Tell me what are the lottery numbers for the next few years then? Why are you being sarcastic with one of the nicest posters here? As for predicting the future... What's that say about your post about Vivas and Arais? I simply asked why jones is suddenly untouchable with such littke minor league exp . If it was vivas or arias being mentioned in trades like jones is , i would be questioning why people wouldnt want to trade them too
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Post by chiyankee on Feb 4, 2024 15:22:08 GMT -5
Oh you can predict the future now ? Tell me what are the lottery numbers for the next few years then? Why are you being sarcastic with one of the nicest posters here? As for predicting the future... What's that say about your post about Vivas and Arais? It's OK. I used to be an administrator on our old board, so I've learned to ignore nonsensical posts like that.
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 15:23:50 GMT -5
Post by azbob643 on Feb 4, 2024 15:23:50 GMT -5
Why are you being sarcastic with one of the nicest posters here? As for predicting the future... What's that say about your post about Vivas and Arais? It's OK. I used to be an administrator on our old board, so I've learned to ignore nonsensical posts like that. It's his typical MO...
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 15:39:45 GMT -5
Post by Max on Feb 4, 2024 15:39:45 GMT -5
Why are you being sarcastic with one of the nicest posters here? As for predicting the future... What's that say about your post about Vivas and Arais? I simply asked why jones is suddenly untouchable with such littke minor league exp . If it was vivas or arias being mentioned in trades like jones is , i would be questioning why people wouldnt want to trade them too No you didn't simply ask. You were sarcastic for no reason at all. You asked him a sarcastic question if he can predict the future. That question was also being hypocritical since you mentioned Vivas and Arais being MLB ready within 2 years in another post.
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Post by inger on Feb 4, 2024 15:44:09 GMT -5
Why are you being sarcastic with one of the nicest posters here? As for predicting the future... What's that say about your post about Vivas and Arais? I simply asked why jones is suddenly untouchable with such littke minor league exp . If it was vivas or arias being mentioned in trades like jones is , i would be questioning why people wouldnt want to trade them too In my view no one should be untouchable, ever. In Jones case it’s not what he’s done, it’s his status as a 5 tool cf prospect that would make me hesitant to lose him unless the deal was an incredible one. One year rentals need not apply. I hope that helps you get a clearer picture of him than you had a few posts ago when you were naming him as a future middle infielder…
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 15:44:44 GMT -5
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 15:44:44 GMT -5
I simply asked why jones is suddenly untouchable with such littke minor league exp . If it was vivas or arias being mentioned in trades like jones is , i would be questioning why people wouldnt want to trade them too No you didn't simply ask. You were sarcastic for no reason at all. You asked him a sarcastic question if he can predict the future. That question was also being hypocritical since you mentioned Vivas and Arais being MLB ready within 2 years in another post. How am i being hypocritical when arias and vivas have shown they are much closer to being ready than jones has? Jones has been in the minors for just 2 years , and has yet to play in AA ball . So shouldnt i question why so many are not willing to trade him for burnes? And when i see people refusing to part with vivas or jones for a player like burnes i will question that too . I would trade any of those guys for a player the caliber of burnes .
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Feb 4, 2024 15:53:05 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Feb 4, 2024 15:53:05 GMT -5
No you didn't simply ask. You were sarcastic for no reason at all. You asked him a sarcastic question if he can predict the future. That question was also being hypocritical since you mentioned Vivas and Arais being MLB ready within 2 years in another post. How am i being hypocritical when arias and vivas have shown they are much closer to being ready than jones has? Jones has been in the minors for just 2 years , and has yet to play in AA ball . So shouldnt i question why so many are not willing to trade him for burnes? And when i see people refusing to part with vivas or jones for a player like burnes i will question that too . I would trade any of those guys for a player the caliber of burnes . Even if that player is a one year rental? That would stop me from offering Jones (not Vivas). This will be a huge year for Jones, BTW. He needs to start performing and at AA. If he moves fast we could see him in September since he’s an older prospect as a college draftee. If he has a flat tire then his prospect status could fall just as fast…
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 15:54:43 GMT -5
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 15:54:43 GMT -5
How am i being hypocritical when arias and vivas have shown they are much closer to being ready than jones has? Jones has been in the minors for just 2 years , and has yet to play in AA ball . So shouldnt i question why so many are not willing to trade him for burnes? And when i see people refusing to part with vivas or jones for a player like burnes i will question that too . I would trade any of those guys for a player the caliber of burnes . Even if that player is a one year rental? That would stop me from offering Jones (not Vivas). This will be a huge year for Jones, BTW. He needs to start performing and at AA. If he moves fast we could see him in September since he’s an older prospect as a college draftee. If he has a flat tire then his prospect status could fall just as fast… If the goal is to win a ws title this year , then yes . It didnt stop the rangers from trading for monty last year , and he could be a one year rental too.
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 15:58:54 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Feb 4, 2024 15:58:54 GMT -5
Even if that player is a one year rental? That would stop me from offering Jones (not Vivas). This will be a huge year for Jones, BTW. He needs to start performing and at AA. If he moves fast we could see him in September since he’s an older prospect as a college draftee. If he has a flat tire then his prospect status could fall just as fast… If the goal is to win a ws title this year , then yes . It didnt stop the rangers from trading for monty last year , and he could be a one year rental too. I don’t know the value of those prospects the Rangers swapped for Monty, so I won’t kibitz about that… All I know is I wouldn’t want to swap Jones for him as a rental. Sign Monty for five years then I would… rentals are getting very expensive lately in terms of rentals…
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 16:14:05 GMT -5
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 16:14:05 GMT -5
If the goal is to win a ws title this year , then yes . It didnt stop the rangers from trading for monty last year , and he could be a one year rental too. I don’t know the value of those prospects the Rangers swapped for Monty, so I won’t kibitz about that… All I know is I wouldn’t want to swap Jones for him as a rental. Sign Monty for five years then I would… rentals are getting very expensive lately in terms of rentals… Of course rentals are getting more expensive because they are proven commodities that can be had without long term damage to how high the payroll is . Especially when you care more about the here and now and not the possible future the next 3 to 5 years from now. If you want a ws now you pay the price , plain and simple
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