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Feb 4, 2024 16:23:01 GMT -5
Post by Max on Feb 4, 2024 16:23:01 GMT -5
No you didn't simply ask. You were sarcastic for no reason at all. You asked him a sarcastic question if he can predict the future. That question was also being hypocritical since you mentioned Vivas and Arais being MLB ready within 2 years in another post. How am i being hypocritical when arias and vivas have shown they are much closer to being ready than jones has? Jones has been in the minors for just 2 years , and has yet to play in AA ball . So shouldnt i question why so many are not willing to trade him for burnes? And when i see people refusing to part with vivas or jones for a player like burnes i will question that too . I would trade any of those guys for a player the caliber of burnes . If you cant see that for yourself, nothing I can say will convince you. |
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 16:25:21 GMT -5
Post by Max on Feb 4, 2024 16:25:21 GMT -5
If the goal is to win a ws title this year , then yes . It didnt stop the rangers from trading for monty last year , and he could be a one year rental too. I don’t know the value of those prospects the Rangers swapped for Monty, so I won’t kibitz about that… All I know is I wouldn’t want to swap Jones for him as a rental. Sign Monty for five years then I would… rentals are getting very expensive lately in terms of rentals… The value of the prospects the Rangers traded for Monty aren't rated as high as Jones. |
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 16:27:43 GMT -5
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 16:27:43 GMT -5
I don’t know the value of those prospects the Rangers swapped for Monty, so I won’t kibitz about that… All I know is I wouldn’t want to swap Jones for him as a rental. Sign Monty for five years then I would… rentals are getting very expensive lately in terms of rentals… The value of the prospects the Rangers traded for Monty aren't rated as high as Jones. Monty isnt the caliber of pitcher than burnes is either . Either way , the rangers traded prospects for a one year rental . Because thry wanted to win a ws . |
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 16:33:43 GMT -5
Post by Max on Feb 4, 2024 16:33:43 GMT -5
The value of the prospects the Rangers traded for Monty aren't rated as high as Jones. Monty isnt the caliber of pitcher than burnes is either . Either way , the rangers traded prospects for a one year rental . Because thry wanted to win a ws . Irrelevant, to what I posted to Inger who said he didn't know value of the prospects that were traded for Monty . |
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 16:44:13 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Feb 4, 2024 16:44:13 GMT -5
I don’t know the value of those prospects the Rangers swapped for Monty, so I won’t kibitz about that… All I know is I wouldn’t want to swap Jones for him as a rental. Sign Monty for five years then I would… rentals are getting very expensive lately in terms of rentals… Of course rentals are getting more expensive because they are proven commodities that can be had without long term damage to how high the payroll is . Especially when you care more about the here and now and not the possible future the next 3 to 5 years from now. If you want a ws now you pay the price , plain and simple Personally I’d love to win a WS, but it’s foolhardy to allow yourself to get in the position of a cellar dweller 3-5 years later. Prospects are still a valuable commodity and can keep a franchise rolling without an inflated payroll. But they are only one way to build. Also have to make use of trades and free agency. Like most things in life, it’s about balance… |
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 16:45:50 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Feb 4, 2024 16:45:50 GMT -5
I don’t know the value of those prospects the Rangers swapped for Monty, so I won’t kibitz about that… All I know is I wouldn’t want to swap Jones for him as a rental. Sign Monty for five years then I would… rentals are getting very expensive lately in terms of rentals… The value of the prospects the Rangers traded for Monty aren't rated as high as Jones. Thanks, Max. I didn’t think they were, and didn’t feel like looking them up, etc… |
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Post by Max on Feb 4, 2024 16:47:53 GMT -5
The value of the prospects the Rangers traded for Monty aren't rated as high as Jones. Thanks, Max. I didn’t think they were, and didn’t feel like looking them up, etc… You're welcome Inger. I only know what they are rated because I looked their names up when they were traded for Monty. If you asked me their names now, I couldn't tell you.  |
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 16:51:01 GMT -5
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 16:51:01 GMT -5
Of course rentals are getting more expensive because they are proven commodities that can be had without long term damage to how high the payroll is . Especially when you care more about the here and now and not the possible future the next 3 to 5 years from now. If you want a ws now you pay the price , plain and simple Personally I’d love to win a WS, but it’s foolhardy to allow yourself to get in the position of a cellar dweller 3-5 years later. Prospects are still a valuable commodity and can keep a franchise rolling without an inflated payroll. But they are only one way to build. Also have to make use of trades and free agency. Like most things in life, it’s about balance… One question . Do you think the yankees should re sign soto ? If so then where does jones fit when you got judge , dominguez , and soto all innthe OF for the long term? |
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Feb 4, 2024 17:11:32 GMT -5
Post by ypaterson on Feb 4, 2024 17:11:32 GMT -5
Personally I’d love to win a WS, but it’s foolhardy to allow yourself to get in the position of a cellar dweller 3-5 years later. Prospects are still a valuable commodity and can keep a franchise rolling without an inflated payroll. But they are only one way to build. Also have to make use of trades and free agency. Like most things in life, it’s about balance… One question . Do you think the yankees should re sign soto ? If so then where does jones fit when you got judge , dominguez , and soto all innthe OF for the long term? You cannot answer that question without knowing the cost. I don't think it is wise to go shopping for anything without looking at the price tags. |
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 17:22:19 GMT -5
Post by ypaterson on Feb 4, 2024 17:22:19 GMT -5
I don’t know the value of those prospects the Rangers swapped for Monty, so I won’t kibitz about that… All I know is I wouldn’t want to swap Jones for him as a rental. Sign Monty for five years then I would… rentals are getting very expensive lately in terms of rentals… Of course rentals are getting more expensive because they are proven commodities that can be had without long term damage to how high the payroll is . Especially when you care more about the here and now and not the possible future the next 3 to 5 years from now. If you want a ws now you pay the price , plain and simple Like the Mutts did after the '22 season ? Add a couple of superstar vets to a team that won 101 games. What could go wrong ? |
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 17:24:11 GMT -5
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Post by inger on Feb 4, 2024 17:24:11 GMT -5
Personally I’d love to win a WS, but it’s foolhardy to allow yourself to get in the position of a cellar dweller 3-5 years later. Prospects are still a valuable commodity and can keep a franchise rolling without an inflated payroll. But they are only one way to build. Also have to make use of trades and free agency. Like most things in life, it’s about balance… One question . Do you think the yankees should re sign soto ? If so then where does jones fit when you got judge , dominguez , and soto all innthe OF for the long term? He’s a generational bat, so you try to sign him. He’s likely to be a DH at some point. As for Jasson, he still has a lot to prove. Too Many players is a blessing, not a curse. He’s not going to be an easy signing. He has a big ego, and his agent has an even bigger one… |
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 17:24:48 GMT -5
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 17:24:48 GMT -5
Of course rentals are getting more expensive because they are proven commodities that can be had without long term damage to how high the payroll is . Especially when you care more about the here and now and not the possible future the next 3 to 5 years from now. If you want a ws now you pay the price , plain and simple Like the Mutts did after the '22 season ? Add a couple of superstar vets to a team that won 101 games. What could go wrong ? Those were mainly free agent signings though . We are talking about trades . And the reason why the mets went nuts in 21 and 22 is because their farm was pretty barren and the team would have been terrible otherwise . |
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 17:28:02 GMT -5
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 17:28:02 GMT -5
One question . Do you think the yankees should re sign soto ? If so then where does jones fit when you got judge , dominguez , and soto all innthe OF for the long term? He’s a generational bat, so you try to sign him. He’s likely to be a DH at some point. As for Jasson, he still has a lot to prove. Too Many players is a blessing, not a curse. He’s not going to be an easy signing. He has a big ego, and his agent has an even bigger one… If they really intend on signing him they will go all out for him . |
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Post by qwik3457bb on Feb 4, 2024 17:55:54 GMT -5
I would think that if Soto has a big year for them, the Yanks will be willing spend what it takes to re-sign Soto to a 10 year deal, but not a 12-13 year deal. I would think they could offer more money per year than any other hitter (not Ohtani, who is still thought of as both a hitter and a pitcher) has gotten to this point, even Judge. (Judge is a vastly better defender, but they'd be signing Soto at 25, where as Judge was already 30 when they signed him to the long-term contract.)
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Burnes
Feb 4, 2024 17:59:25 GMT -5
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Post by posadafan24 on Feb 4, 2024 17:59:25 GMT -5
I would think that if Soto has a big year for them, the Yanks will be willing spend what it takes to re-sign Soto to a 10 year deal, but not a 12-13 year deal. I would think they could offer more money per year than any other hitter (not Ohtani, who is still thought of as both a hitter and a pitcher) has gotten to this point, even Judge. (Judge is a vastly better defender, but they'd be signing Soto at 25, where as Judge was already 30 when they signed him to the long-term contract.) He is a boras client , they want max years and money . |
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