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Post by Cult of Ken Clay on May 21, 2024 9:46:00 GMT -5
We got 12 hits, they committed 2 errors and walked us 4 times. Need more runs from that but yeah, super bad. Holmes just used up his free pass. Anyone using Ken Clay's in their user name should register up and become a full time member. done |
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Post by kaybli on May 21, 2024 10:11:27 GMT -5
Anyone using Ken Clay's in their user name should register up and become a full time member. done Welcome to the board!  |
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Post by chiyankee on May 21, 2024 10:16:08 GMT -5
Anyone using Ken Clay's in their user name should register up and become a full time member. done  Hilarious! I needed a good laugh after last night's debacle. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on May 21, 2024 10:22:40 GMT -5
I believe this is the first troll from another team in this board's history. Surely you can do better than this. I mean, it's certainly possible the M's could sweep this series. You know, momentums swings, hot streaks end, cold streaks start... In baseball, just about anything's possible, expectations for any one game are never that certain. But if I were to bet I know I wouldn't bet on a Seattle sweep. This is the kind of game that would send last year's team into a bit of a tailspin. Haven't verified, my comment is from memory but it seemed to me last year they followed almost every winning streak with a losing streak that negated to some degree the wins. I am starting to sense this team is different, let's see how they respond. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on May 21, 2024 10:49:51 GMT -5
Walks hurt but the line is very misleading. 3 of the 4 hits he made a good pitch, got weak contact but balls were either perfectly placed or Yankees failed to make a play. IMO, it was more bad luck than bad pitching. agree. for the most part holmes got weak contact that should have ended better.
the gleyber play was a hit. should've held the ball but in the heat of the battle and gleyber being gleyber, he tries to make the play. also the ump ducked under the throw. not sure if that threw him off a bit.
that was followed by the blooper. thought it was catchable. looked like both judge and soto pulled up. that was followed by 2 hard hit balls that would have at least tied the game.
in any case, a very ugly outcome that should have been in the win column.
Bump, the walks bothered me more than the hits. I think if he gets either of the two guys that walked we probably win that game. IIRC, he was ahead of both hitters he walked and couldn't put them away. Walks have hurt him in the past but until last night he has been good limiting them. Has Gleyber played himself out of NY? I'm beginning to wonder if he is moved at the TDL? |
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Post by chiyankee on May 21, 2024 10:58:26 GMT -5
All this heat Gleyber is taking for his error last night, the flyball that Judge and Soto let drop between them was far more costly since that should have been an out. The Gleyber play was going to be an infield single regardless of what kind of throw he made.
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Post by bumper on May 21, 2024 11:12:56 GMT -5
agree. for the most part holmes got weak contact that should have ended better.
the gleyber play was a hit. should've held the ball but in the heat of the battle and gleyber being gleyber, he tries to make the play. also the ump ducked under the throw. not sure if that threw him off a bit.
that was followed by the blooper. thought it was catchable. looked like both judge and soto pulled up. that was followed by 2 hard hit balls that would have at least tied the game.
in any case, a very ugly outcome that should have been in the win column.
Bump, the walks bothered me more than the hits. I think if he gets either of the two guys that walked we probably win that game. IIRC, he was ahead of both hitters he walked and couldn't put them away. Walks have hurt him in the past but until last night he has been good limiting them. Has Gleyber played himself out of NY? I'm beginning to wonder if he is moved at the TDL? unless there's a quantum improvement, definitely could see gleyber being moved at the tdl. clearly his value will be significantly down but may as well get "something" for him.
with DJ returning and with cabrera & berti performing reasonably well and the possible return of peraza, we will have a surplus of IF'ers, so gleyber could go.
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Post by 1955nyyfan on May 21, 2024 11:21:24 GMT -5
All this heat Gleyber is taking for his error last night, the flyball that Judge and Soto let drop between them was far more costly since that should have been an out. The Gleyber play was going to be an infield single regardless of what kind of throw he made. My comment on Gleyber was not based on last night alone but more on the entirety of his play this season. He frankly hasn't hit and has had several defensive lapses. He is going to be a FA after this season and I'm just not sure he fits into the long term vision. Until the Yankees traded for Soto I thought extending Gleyber was a no brainer, I don't think there is a chance that both are brought back and Soto is obviously the more valuable player. I could see the Yankees treating this as an "all-in" season and hoping for a Gleyber rebound during the second half and into the playoffs but if they feel there is an option to replace him with a more steady performer and move him in a trade I think they may do that. If I had to guess I'd say he is a Yankee for this year in it's entirety but not resigned and they bet on the rebound. I don't feel like I'm piling on as I think it is a legitimate question, I think what Gleyber has in his favor is there doesn't seem to be a suitable replacement for him on the roster. I guess when DJ returns you could transition Berti to 2b, he seems to be a reliable guy but doesn't have the offensive upside of Gleyber. |
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Post by chiyankee on May 21, 2024 11:40:03 GMT -5
All this heat Gleyber is taking for his error last night, the flyball that Judge and Soto let drop between them was far more costly since that should have been an out. The Gleyber play was going to be an infield single regardless of what kind of throw he made. My comment on Gleyber was not based on last night alone but more on the entirety of his play this season. He frankly hasn't hit and has had several defensive lapses. He is going to be a FA after this season and I'm just not sure he fits into the long term vision. Until the Yankees traded for Soto I thought extending Gleyber was a no brainer, I don't think there is a chance that both are brought back and Soto is obviously the more valuable player. I could see the Yankees treating this as an "all-in" season and hoping for a Gleyber rebound during the second half and into the playoffs but if they feel there is an option to replace him with a more steady performer and move him in a trade I think they may do that. If I had to guess I'd say he is a Yankee for this year in it's entirety but not resigned and they bet on the rebound. I don't feel like I'm piling on as I think it is a legitimate question, I think what Gleyber has in his favor is there doesn't seem to be a suitable replacement for him on the roster. I guess when DJ returns you could transition Berti to 2b, he seems to be a reliable guy but doesn't have the offensive upside of Gleyber. Sorry, I wasn't just thinking of your post. Gleyber was getting roasted last night on Twitter last night as if he blew the game. With the way he's playing, I wonder if he has any trade value right now, since he is a free agent after the season, but it would be interesting to see what Durbin could do in the major leagues, if given a chance. He can play 2nd base, is a contact hitter and would give the lineup more speed. |
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Post by azbob643 on May 21, 2024 11:52:20 GMT -5
definitely could see gleyber being moved at the tdl. Probably best for him too. As Michael Kay recently said re Gary Sanchez...it's gotten to the point where every and any miscue is scrutinized, magnified & blown way out of proportion. |
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Post by 1955nyyfan on May 21, 2024 12:23:13 GMT -5
My comment on Gleyber was not based on last night alone but more on the entirety of his play this season. He frankly hasn't hit and has had several defensive lapses. He is going to be a FA after this season and I'm just not sure he fits into the long term vision. Until the Yankees traded for Soto I thought extending Gleyber was a no brainer, I don't think there is a chance that both are brought back and Soto is obviously the more valuable player. I could see the Yankees treating this as an "all-in" season and hoping for a Gleyber rebound during the second half and into the playoffs but if they feel there is an option to replace him with a more steady performer and move him in a trade I think they may do that. If I had to guess I'd say he is a Yankee for this year in it's entirety but not resigned and they bet on the rebound. I don't feel like I'm piling on as I think it is a legitimate question, I think what Gleyber has in his favor is there doesn't seem to be a suitable replacement for him on the roster. I guess when DJ returns you could transition Berti to 2b, he seems to be a reliable guy but doesn't have the offensive upside of Gleyber. Sorry, I wasn't just thinking of your post. Gleyber was getting roasted last night on Twitter last night as if he blew the game. With the way he's playing, I wonder if he has any trade value right now, since he is a free agent after the season, but it would be interesting to see what Durbin could do in the major leagues, if given a chance. He can play 2nd base, is a contact hitter and would give the lineup more speed. Chi, some of the potential inhouse replacements for Gleyber discussed here. www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/gleyber-torres-replacement-may-be-among-yankees-4-under-the-radar-prospects/ar-BB1maxZI?ocid=BingNewsSerp |
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Post by chiyankee on May 21, 2024 12:36:29 GMT -5
Thanks, I'll give it a read. |
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Post by Max on May 21, 2024 13:08:44 GMT -5
And a big touch of Gleyber… Holmes: 0.2 IP / 4H / 2BB / 4 ER
I just commented recently about how Holmes wildness is gone. In my opinion, that was the worst Yankees loss of the season.
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Post by azbob643 on May 21, 2024 13:11:43 GMT -5
Holmes: 0.2 IP / 4H / 2BB / 4 ER
I just commented recently about how Holmes wildness is gone. In my opinion, that was the worst Yankees loss of the season.
Again...I don't hold Holmes solely responsible for the loss. Losses, like wins, are usually a team "effort". |
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Post by Max on May 21, 2024 13:16:28 GMT -5
Even worse, Yanks don't have Holmes tomorrow because he's pitched back to back days, and 3 out of 4, and now have to worry if this blown save starts one of his crisis of confidence slumps that he goes through once or twice a year. Game 2 is tomorrow at 7:07 on YES, Bryan Woo vs. Clarke Schmidt. OK, going to check notifications now. That's what I'm wary of as well and why I'm not quite sold on him as a closer yet. Was it 2 years ago he started out like a house afire then imploded for about 2 months. Hope that's not the case this year. Guy's got filthy stuff. He just recently convinced me that he is a good Closer because he showed better control with his pitches. But I reserve the right to change my mind if he goes on a streak where he has trouble finding the strike zone. |
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Hilarious! I needed a good laugh after last night's debacle. 
