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Post by Max on May 21, 2024 13:19:38 GMT -5
agree. for the most part holmes got weak contact that should have ended better.
the gleyber play was a hit. should've held the ball but in the heat of the battle and gleyber being gleyber, he tries to make the play. also the ump ducked under the throw. not sure if that threw him off a bit.
that was followed by the blooper. thought it was catchable. looked like both judge and soto pulled up. that was followed by 2 hard hit balls that would have at least tied the game.
in any case, a very ugly outcome that should have been in the win column.
Bottom line they gotta limit the damage they didn't. They gotta score more when they get 12 hits they didn't. Holmes def part of the problem but team loss overall here. Agreed.
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Post by anthonyd46 on May 21, 2024 13:22:24 GMT -5
I just commented recently about how Holmes wildness is gone. In my opinion, that was the worst Yankees loss of the season.
Again...I don't hold Holmes solely responsible for the loss. Losses, like wins, are usually a team "effort". Only thing I hold him for is those two walks but otherwise he did get the ground balls etc Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by inger on May 21, 2024 13:26:33 GMT -5
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Post by Max on May 21, 2024 13:30:06 GMT -5
All this heat Gleyber is taking for his error last night, the flyball that Judge and Soto let drop between them was far more costly since that should have been an out. The Gleyber play was going to be an infield single regardless of what kind of throw he made. My comment on Gleyber was not based on last night alone but more on the entirety of his play this season. He frankly hasn't hit and has had several defensive lapses. He is going to be a FA after this season and I'm just not sure he fits into the long term vision. Until the Yankees traded for Soto I thought extending Gleyber was a no brainer, I don't think there is a chance that both are brought back and Soto is obviously the more valuable player. I could see the Yankees treating this as an "all-in" season and hoping for a Gleyber rebound during the second half and into the playoffs but if they feel there is an option to replace him with a more steady performer and move him in a trade I think they may do that. If I had to guess I'd say he is a Yankee for this year in it's entirety but not resigned and they bet on the rebound. I don't feel like I'm piling on as I think it is a legitimate question, I think what Gleyber has in his favor is there doesn't seem to be a suitable replacement for him on the roster. I guess when DJ returns you could transition Berti to 2b, he seems to be a reliable guy but doesn't have the offensive upside of Gleyber. As I have mentioned many times, I'm pretty sure that the Yankees will either trade Torres or won't re-sign him. I believe that even if Torres has the best season of his career. He's a good player, and I would like the Yankees to keep him. But as I have said, the roster is what it is with more than one 2B candidate. Also, the Luxury Tax is what it is.
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Post by Max on May 21, 2024 13:31:46 GMT -5
Probably best for him too. As Michael Kay recently said re Gary Sanchez...it's gotten to the point where every and any miscue is scrutinized, magnified & blown way out of proportion. I couldn't agree more.
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Post by azbob643 on May 21, 2024 13:34:13 GMT -5
Again...I don't hold Holmes solely responsible for the loss. Losses, like wins, are usually a team "effort". Only thing I hold him for is those two walks but otherwise he did get the ground balls etc Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Right. One thing that really irks me is late-inning relief pitchers who don't throw strikes, but as you and others have noted, he did get ground balls and both IF hits and the pop fly that dropped were cheapies. Again...stuff happens. Playing "what if" doesn't change that.
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Post by Max on May 21, 2024 13:35:49 GMT -5
I just commented recently about how Holmes wildness is gone. In my opinion, that was the worst Yankees loss of the season.
Again...I don't hold Holmes solely responsible for the loss. Losses, like wins, are usually a team "effort". I figured that you didn't hold Holmes solely responsible for the loss. Yep, losses, like wins, are usually a team effort.
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Post by azbob643 on May 21, 2024 13:43:18 GMT -5
...but it would be interesting to see what Durbin could do in the major leagues, if given a chance. He can play 2nd base, is a contact hitter and would give the lineup more speed. I saw both Durbin & Cowles play quite a bit during AZFL...both were impressive, but Durbin is getting it done at AAA.
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Post by desousa on May 21, 2024 13:50:10 GMT -5
I don't think the Yanks will trade Torres. One, he doesn't have nearly the value he had even last season and two, this team seems like a tight knit group and I don't think they want to mess that up. I do believe they won't resign in the off season. Like the article 1955 posted, Yanks have several up and coming middle infielders in the wings and hopefully one of them can take over. You never know, but hopefully none of them are boneheads.
That being said, would they move D.J. back to second next season or are his 2nd base days over?
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Post by Max on May 21, 2024 13:53:31 GMT -5
My comment on Gleyber was not based on last night alone but more on the entirety of his play this season. He frankly hasn't hit and has had several defensive lapses. He is going to be a FA after this season and I'm just not sure he fits into the long term vision. Until the Yankees traded for Soto I thought extending Gleyber was a no brainer, I don't think there is a chance that both are brought back and Soto is obviously the more valuable player. I could see the Yankees treating this as an "all-in" season and hoping for a Gleyber rebound during the second half and into the playoffs but if they feel there is an option to replace him with a more steady performer and move him in a trade I think they may do that. If I had to guess I'd say he is a Yankee for this year in it's entirety but not resigned and they bet on the rebound. I don't feel like I'm piling on as I think it is a legitimate question, I think what Gleyber has in his favor is there doesn't seem to be a suitable replacement for him on the roster. I guess when DJ returns you could transition Berti to 2b, he seems to be a reliable guy but doesn't have the offensive upside of Gleyber. Sorry, I wasn't just thinking of your post. Gleyber was getting roasted last night on Twitter last night as if he blew the game. With the way he's playing, I wonder if he has any trade value right now, since he is a free agent after the season, but it would be interesting to see what Durbin could do in the major leagues, if given a chance. He can play 2nd base, is a contact hitter and would give the lineup more speed. Yep, Durbin also has a very good OBP.
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Post by azbob643 on May 21, 2024 13:54:49 GMT -5
I don't think the Yanks will trade Torres. One, he doesn't have nearly the value he had even last season and two, this team seems like a tight knit group and I don't think they want to mess that up. I do believe they won't resign in the off season. Like the article 1955 posted, Yanks have several up and coming middle infielders in the wings and hopefully one of them can take over. You never know, but hopefully none of them are boneheads. That being said, would they move D.J. back to second next season or are his 2nd base days over? IMO DJ's days @ 2B are in the past. I think he'll play more 1B next year than any other position. IMO, if Yanks don't re-sign Gleyber he'll end up at 3B for another team.
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Post by azbob643 on May 21, 2024 13:56:13 GMT -5
Yep, Durbin also has a very good OBP. Question is...will he be ridiculed as Altuve has been? Called a "gnome" or "dwarf"?
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Post by Max on May 21, 2024 14:00:31 GMT -5
I don't think the Yanks will trade Torres. One, he doesn't have nearly the value he had even last season and two, this team seems like a tight knit group and I don't think they want to mess that up. I do believe they won't resign in the off season. Like the article 1955 posted, Yanks have several up and coming middle infielders in the wings and hopefully one of them can take over. You never know, but hopefully none of them are boneheads. That being said, would they move D.J. back to second next season or are his 2nd base days over? Just speculating... I'm not sure if the Yankees have any interest in signing Bregman this off season unless they can't re-sign Soto. So my guess is that DJ stays at 3B, and either Durbin or Peraza replaces Torres at 2B.
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Post by azbob643 on May 21, 2024 14:03:01 GMT -5
Just speculating... I'm not sure if the Yankees have any interest in signing Bregman this off season... Bregman isn't having a much better year than Gleyber.
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Post by Max on May 21, 2024 14:05:08 GMT -5
Yep, Durbin also has a very good OBP. Question is...will he be ridiculed as Altuve has been? Called a "gnome" or "dwarf"? Not be me. I appreciate a player's talent whether their name is Altuve, Durbin, etc.
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