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Post by noetsi on Mar 6, 2019 13:24:24 GMT -5
I often wonder if other teams have as much problems with injuries to their pitchers as we do.
We just need to score enough runs to win regardless of how bad our pitching is.
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Post by inger on Mar 6, 2019 13:33:14 GMT -5
I often wonder if other teams have as much problems with injuries to their pitchers as we do. We just need to score enough runs to win regardless of how bad our pitching is. Question/Statement 1: Yes. Many do. Question/Statement 2: Great strategy. Hope you didn’t get bogged down on analysis on that one... (:
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Post by michcusejoe5 on Mar 6, 2019 13:33:58 GMT -5
I often wonder if other teams have as much problems with injuries to their pitchers as we do. We just need to score enough runs to win regardless of how bad our pitching is. Are you really not aware that injuries to pitchers across the league is extremely common?
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Post by inger on Mar 6, 2019 13:37:17 GMT -5
I often wonder if other teams have as much problems with injuries to their pitchers as we do. We just need to score enough runs to win regardless of how bad our pitching is. Are you really not aware that injuries to pitchers across the league is extremely common? NOTOTAU... (:
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Post by noetsi on Mar 6, 2019 15:05:51 GMT -5
I only watch Yankee games and don't pay much attention to other teams. Thus my question.
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Post by inger on Mar 6, 2019 15:44:04 GMT -5
I only watch Yankee games and don't pay much attention to other teams. Thus my question. I get that. I’m more or less the same way, but I guess I pay a bit more attention to other teams than I realize sometimes. I used to pay attention to every team...more or less...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 16:43:30 GMT -5
If that’s true, then shouldn’t management/ ownership have been proactive in terms of prioritising starting pitching in the off season instead of just paying lip service and yet again passing on available talent that would have only cost money?
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Post by inger on Mar 6, 2019 18:30:55 GMT -5
If that’s true, then shouldn’t management/ ownership have been proactive in terms of prioritising starting pitching in the off season instead of just paying lip service and yet again passing on available talent that would have only cost money? From what I’ve read, Keuchel has himself confused with a pitcher of the same name that was at the top of his game about three years ago, but has now been slipping into his decline phase for the past couple of years. He seems to have little concept of why no one would want to pay him both in dollars and years well beyond his true current worth. I have no idea what ransom demands Gonzalez has in mind, but even at his peak, which is in the rear view mirror, he was inconsistent. At the right price, and in a one or two year contract he might be worth a flyer...if you have room in your five man rotation. While the team is accused of having insufficient depth, the truth is that there are teams in the league that would eagerly put Loaisiga, German, or Cessa in their stable and even in their five man rotation. The only pitchers I saw value in over the off season were available on trade. We signed one (Paxton) as it is that while talented, has some concerns with a long injury history. I get why they took the chance on that one, and certainly would love to see that signing bear fruit. I’m not sure that as a GM I would have had the fuzzies to take that risk, so congrats to Cashman for doing so. Back to Keuchel... 2 years at $16-18M might be doable, but he’d rather sit out the season and accuse people of collusion than look in the mirror and check his stat page on Baseball-Reference... Six years? Hardy-har-har, Dallas. Keep your smurf beard...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 21:04:03 GMT -5
Ahh.. a guy named Patrick Corbin could have been had for money, similar To Cole last season, Scherzer, Verlander, etc.. The cost was money.
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Post by kaybli on Mar 6, 2019 21:16:19 GMT -5
Ahh.. a guy named Patrick Corbin could have been had for money, similar To Cole last season, Scherzer, Verlander, etc.. The cost was money. Verlander and Cole were both traded. You could argue Verlander was more of a salary dump type deal, but we weren't taking on his contract and going over the luxury cap limit that year. The Pirates wanted Andjuar and Frazier from us for Cole according to rumors.
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Post by greatfatness on Mar 6, 2019 21:19:48 GMT -5
Ahh.. a guy named Patrick Corbin could have been had for money, similar To Cole last season, Scherzer, Verlander, etc.. The cost was money. Verlander and Cole were both traded. You could argue Verlander was more of a salary dump type deal, but we weren't taking on his contract and going over the luxury cap limit that year. The Pirates wanted Andjuar and Frazier from us for Cole according to rumors. But why can't the Yankees have every player and then no matter what happens, we always have the best team possible? For only $140,000,000, the Yankees could have signed someone to cover the next three starts when Severino is on the disabled list.
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Post by kaybli on Mar 6, 2019 21:40:44 GMT -5
Verlander and Cole were both traded. You could argue Verlander was more of a salary dump type deal, but we weren't taking on his contract and going over the luxury cap limit that year. The Pirates wanted Andjuar and Frazier from us for Cole according to rumors. But why can't the Yankees have every player and then no matter what happens, we always have the best team possible? For only $140,000,000, the Yankees could have signed someone to cover the next three starts when Severino is on the disabled list. Free agency decisions don't exist in a vacuum either. We chose Tanaka the year before Scherzer for better or worse. I doubt we would spend that much for both. If we traded for Verlander I doubt we would have gotten Stanton. I understand the frustration of not spending more especially with the money the Yankees take in. But I'm still relatively happy with the team we have. When the team doesn't win the championship you can always second guess the free agency hits or misses. There are always plenty of those to look back on.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 22:36:59 GMT -5
So if someone suggests at the time the player is available via FA that we sign him, he's guilty of being frivolous or accused of wanting every player. I'm not related to Hal, so I don't care about his other businesses. The Yankees needed one thing this off season more than anything else- SP. To go into a season rolling the dice with only 5 is foolish. Now one has a yet to be determined shoulder issue and another is coming off heart surgery and is 38 years old and already auditioning to be a commentator. Hopefully, German and Cessa can fill in, or the team can slug their way past anyone no matter how inconsistent the pitching may be.
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Post by inger on Mar 6, 2019 23:04:09 GMT -5
Yeah, Chuck...I left Corbin out of the equation. At the time he was available I was unsure of him, just because he may be a one year wonder that pitched outta his gourd...
In the end, I thought his signing was an overpay in this year’s market, and the six years was a real stretch...
I suppose if we had him, I’d be nervously excited to see if he could repeat what he did last season, and hopeful...
I was more excited that we might pull a blockbuster trade with Cleveland or the Mets (before they went into spend mode)... or somebody. If you can believe the stories, the prices were even higher than you’d expect...
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Post by noetsi on Mar 7, 2019 16:42:31 GMT -5
I am happy with the team. The starting pitching is simply thin and likely to get hurt sometime In the year based on the past. No one is good at everything.
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